query: grammaticalization go/be.in > negation
E. Bashir
ebashir at YAHOO.COM
Fri Feb 1 15:32:44 UTC 2013
And, from English, "Why did you go and do that?" (something considered undesirable)
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> From: Hartmut Haberland <hartmut at RUC.DK>
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>Subject: Re: query: grammaticalization go/be.in > negation
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>Very much à propos, I just got a mail from our departmental secretary (the language is Danish)
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>Min datter er desværre gået hen og blevet syg
>My daughter has unfortunately gone DIRECT and become ill
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>You couldn't say that with rask 'well' - unless you are waiting for an inheritance and the person you expected to die got well again.
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>(This works the same way without the desværre 'unfortunately'.)
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>Hartmut Haberland
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>Den 01-02-2013 00:28, Nigel Vincent skrev:
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>>Italian has a passive periphrasis constructed with the verb andare 'go' which can only be used with verbs which express a negative outcome. Thus:
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>>La casa è andata distrutta 'the house was (lit. went) destroyed'
>>La lettera è andata perduta 'the letter got (went) lost'
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>>but not:
>>*La casa è andata costruita 'the house went built'
>>*La lettera è andata trovata 'the house went found'
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>>Nigel
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>>Professor Nigel Vincent, FBA
>>Professor Emeritus of General & Romance Linguistics
>>The University of Manchester
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>>Vice-President for Research & HE Policy, The British Academy
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>>Linguistics & English Language
>>School of Arts, Languages and Cultures
>>The University of Manchester
>>Manchester M13 9PL
>>UK
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>>http://www.llc.manchester.ac.uk/subjects/lel/staff/nigel-vincent/
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