query: grammaticalization go/be.in > negation

[Edith A Moravcsik]

Cf. also the title of Deborah Tannen's book about mothers and daughter in conversations: "Are you wearing THAT?" 



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And, from English, "Why did you go and do that?" (something considered undesirable) 










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Very much à propos, I just got a mail from our departmental secretary (the language is Danish) 

Min datter er desværre gået hen og blevet syg 
My daughter has unfortunately gone DIRECT and become ill 

You couldn't say that with rask 'well' - unless you are waiting for an inheritance and the person you expected to die got well again. 

(This works the same way without the desværre 'unfortunately'.) 

Hartmut Haberland 

Den 01-02-2013 00:28, Nigel Vincent skrev: 

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Italian has a passive periphrasis constructed with the verb andare 'go' which can only be used with verbs which express a negative outcome. Thus: 

La casa è andata distrutta 'the house was (lit. went) destroyed' 
La lettera è andata perduta 'the letter got (went) lost' 

but not: 
*La casa è andata costruita 'the house went built' 
*La lettera è andata trovata 'the house went found' 

Nigel 



Professor Nigel Vincent, FBA 
Professor Emeritus of General & Romance Linguistics 
The University of Manchester 

Vice-President for Research & HE Policy, The British Academy 

Linguistics & English Language 
School of Arts, Languages and Cultures 
The University of Manchester 
Manchester M13 9PL 
UK 



http://www.llc.manchester.ac.uk/subjects/lel/staff/nigel-vincent/ 








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Edith A. Moravcsik 
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University of Wisconsin-Milwaukee 
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