[Lingtyp] uses of first plural exclusive pronouns
David Gil
gil at eva.mpg.de
Tue Jun 23 15:52:24 UTC 2015
Zach,
Not exactly what you're looking for, but in the same ballpark, some
colloquial varieties of Malay/Indonesian offer a partial identity
between 3rd person plural and 1st person plural exclusive. The partial
identity is based on the strategy of combining a pronoun with the common
noun 'orang' (person). In several dialects PRO-orang (sometimes
subsequently reduced) forces a plural interpretation on a pronoun that
is otherwise singular or unmarked for number. And in a subset of those
dialects, 1PL.INCL-orang derives a 1st person exclusive pronoun. Thus,
3rd person and 1st exclusive, although not completely identical, share
the common element 'orang'.
For example, in colloquial Kuala Lumpur Malay:
kita - 1PL.INCL
dia - 3SG
kita orang - 1PL.EXCL
dia orang - 3PL
Best,
David
> On Fri, May 29, 2015 at 1:34 PM, Zachary O'Hagan <zohagan at berkeley.edu
> <mailto:zohagan at berkeley.edu>> wrote:
>
> Dear colleagues,
>
> It is known that first plural inclusive pronouns can be used for
> polite first- or second-person reference in some languages. I am
> searching for instances in any language in which a first plural
> *exclusive* pronoun can be used for polite *third*-person reference,
> or for instances in which a third-person pronoun can be shown to
> originate historically in a first plural exclusive pronoun. Possible
> references are much appreciated.
>
> Regards,
>
> -Zach O'Hagan
>
> --
>
> Zachary O'Hagan
> Graduate Student
> Department of Linguistics
> University of California, Berkeley
>
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David Gil
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