[Lingtyp] Kinship systems that distinguish age but not gender

[André Müller]

Also, Thai has พี่ [pʰîː] 'elder sibling' and น้อง [nɔ́ːŋ] 'younger
sibling'.

- André

PhD Student
University of Zurich

On 19 Jul 2017 15:27, "Siva Kalyan" <sivakalyan.princeton at gmail.com> wrote:

> On a slight tangent, are there languages where male siblings are
> distinguished for age but female siblings aren't (or vice versa)?
>
> Siva
>
> On 19 Jul 2017, at 6:50 pm, David Gil <gil at shh.mpg.de> wrote:
>
> Matt beat me to it on Malay/Indonesian!  I would just like to add that
> while many (most?) varieties that I am familiar with work the way Matt
> describes, some exhibit an asymmetry in which elder siblings are
> distinguished for gender while younger ones are not.  This pattern is also
> evident in closely-related Minangkabau:
>
> adiak - 'younger sibling'
> uda - 'elder brother'
> uni - 'elder sister'
>
> And I suspect that it is common in other languages of the region.
>
>
> On 19/07/2017 10:40, Matthew Carroll wrote:
>
> Hi Guys
>
> What about Indonesian/Malay? kakak/adik for elder/younger sibling
> respectively.
>
> Best,
> Matt
>
> On Wed, Jul 19, 2017 at 9:31 AM, Hedvig Skirgård <
> hedvig.skirgard at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Dear LINGTYP,
>>
>> Does anyone know of a language that has a distinction in the kinship
>> system for age of referent (younger/older) without also having a
>> distinction for gender of referent? For example, a language that marks
>> siblings as being younger or older to ego without reference to being sister
>> or brother.
>>
>> The hypothesis is that this doesn't happen/is very rare. We'd like to
>> know if you've come across any examples of this.
>>
>> I'm asking for my friend Alex (cc:ed) who is not on the list. Please
>> direct any responses or comments to her.
>>
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