[Lingtyp] Kinship systems that distinguish age but not gender

[Alexandra Marley]

Thanks heaps y’all! Got what I needed.

Siva- I know Bininj Kunwok does, sort of.

When ego = m
eB = kokok
yB = rdarda
Z = yabok

When ego = f
B = rdarda
eZ = yabok
yZ = rdarda


Alex


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From: Siva Kalyan [mailto:sivakalyan.princeton at gmail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, 19 July 2017 6:57 PM
To: David Gil <gil at shh.mpg.de>
Cc: Matthew Carroll <mattcarrollj at gmail.com>; Kyla Quinn <kyla.quinn at anu.edu.au>; Alexandra Marley <alexandra.marley at anu.edu.au>; lingtyp at listserv.linguistlist.org
Subject: Re: [Lingtyp] Kinship systems that distinguish age but not gender

On a slight tangent, are there languages where male siblings are distinguished for age but female siblings aren't (or vice versa)?

Siva

On 19 Jul 2017, at 6:50 pm, David Gil <gil at shh.mpg.de<mailto:gil at shh.mpg.de>> wrote:

Matt beat me to it on Malay/Indonesian!  I would just like to add that while many (most?) varieties that I am familiar with work the way Matt describes, some exhibit an asymmetry in which elder siblings are distinguished for gender while younger ones are not.  This pattern is also evident in closely-related Minangkabau:

adiak - 'younger sibling'
uda - 'elder brother'
uni - 'elder sister'

And I suspect that it is common in other languages of the region.

On 19/07/2017 10:40, Matthew Carroll wrote:
Hi Guys

What about Indonesian/Malay? kakak/adik for elder/younger sibling respectively.

Best,
Matt

On Wed, Jul 19, 2017 at 9:31 AM, Hedvig Skirgård <hedvig.skirgard at gmail.com<mailto:hedvig.skirgard at gmail.com>> wrote:
Dear LINGTYP,

Does anyone know of a language that has a distinction in the kinship system for age of referent (younger/older) without also having a distinction for gender of referent? For example, a language that marks siblings as being younger or older to ego without reference to being sister or brother.

The hypothesis is that this doesn't happen/is very rare. We'd like to know if you've come across any examples of this.

I'm asking for my friend Alex (cc:ed) who is not on the list. Please direct any responses or comments to her.

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