[Lingtyp] Temporal features?

[Johanna NICHOLS]

I don't think I see a problem with that either (not off the top of my
head anyway), but my question was about "ancient languages",
"contemporary languages", "more recent languages".  How are you
determining ages of languages?
On Mon, Oct 1, 2018 at 8:38 AM David Gil <gil at shh.mpg.de> wrote:
>
> Joseph (and all),
>
> On 01/10/2018 22:22, Joseph Brooks wrote:
> > Seconding Johanna Nichols' questions and adding :
> >
> > how is "greater socio-political complexity" determined? and who
> > exactly is in a position to determine that? If my guess is correct, we
> > are assuming larger industrial and/or hierarchical societies are more
> > complex socio-politically, which seems pretty problematic (at least to
> > me).
> > Joseph
> Until recently I have been working with the following 4-valued scale of
> socio-political complexity:
>
> national language >
> local variety of national langauge >
> local language historically part of larger polity >
> local language only recently part of larger polity
>
> It would seem to me that this is relatively straightforward.  In work in
> progress I am developing a more refined scale incorporating date from
> the D-Place database (https://d-place.org/home), specifically the number
> of levels in what they refer to as the "jurisdictional hierarchy beyond
> local community".  Again, I don't really see any problems with this.
>
> David
>
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