[Lingtyp] Cases of loss of goal markers

Prof. Dr. Thomas Stolz stolz at uni-bremen.de
Sat Jan 12 15:02:42 UTC 2019

  Dear all,

there is also our book on zero-marking of spatial relations in which  
we survey cross-linguistic data from 112 languages which show that  
Place and Goal are frequently affected by zero-marking - be it  
obligatorily or optionally. More often than not  zero-marking of  
spatial relations occurs with place names whereas common nouns lag  
behind (somewhat). Our study is synchronic but it can be taken for  
granted that some of the instances of zero-marking are diachronic  

The reference is

Stolz, Thomas & Lestrade, Sander & Stolz, Christel. 2014. /The  
crosslingustics of zero-marking of spatial relations/ (= STTYP 15).  
Berlin, Boston: De Gruyter Mouton. ISBN 978-3-05-006276-1

A follow-up study to our 2017 paper in Folia Linguistica will be  
available shortly:

Stolz, Thomas & Levkovych, Nataliya. 2019. Toponomastics meets  
linguistic typology: glimpses of Special Toponymic Grammar from  
Aromanian and sundry languages. /Onomastica Uralica/ 11, 43-61.

We intend to continue our research in this area. Thus, comments are  
always welcome.

All the best. Thomas Stolz

Prof. Dr. Thomas Stolz
University of Bremen
FB10: Linguistics
Universitäts-Boulevard 13
D-28 359 Bremen

stolz at uni-bremen.de

----- Nachricht von Martin Haspelmath <haspelmath at shh.mpg.de> ---------
  Datum: Sat, 12 Jan 2019 13:29:03 +0100
    Von: Martin Haspelmath <haspelmath at shh.mpg.de>
Betreff: Re: [Lingtyp] Cases of loss of goal markers
     An: lingtyp at listserv.linguistlist.org

> The omission of spatial goal (and location) markers with place names  
> and other nouns used typically in spatial function is very  
> widespread in the world's languages.
> Until recently, there was no term for this phenomenon, but I now  
> call it "differential place marking" (inspired especially by Stolz  
> et al.'s 2017 paper mentioned by Grev Corbett, and by Jonathan  
> Schlossberg's 2017 ALT talk on "local nouns" and the differential  
> marking of place).
> In my forthcoming paper "Differential place marking and differential  
> object marking" (to appear in LTU/STUF; available on Academia.edu),  
> I highlight the similarities with other kinds of differential marking:
> It seems that in many (or most) languages that allow unflagged  
> spatial goals (and/or locations), these occur especially or  
> exclusively with "typical place nouns", most notably place names.  
> The reason is nicely expressed by Karatsareas & Georgakopoulos in  
> their 2016 paper (cited by Ponrawee Prasertsom):
>      "The omission of [the goal preposition] "se" therefore seems to  
> be the preferred option in motion event utterances in which the  
> Ground-encoding expressions display high degrees of informativity,  
> and also possibly redundancy" (p. 326)

  On 12.01.19 11:53, Vladimir Panov wrote:

> Dear Ponrawee,
> actually, not only in Asia Minor, but also in colloquial standard  
> Modern Greek goal and location markers are often dropped, e.g.        
>     ime athina / pao athina
>     cop.1sg athens / go-1sg athens
>     'I am in Athens' / 'I am going to Athens'
>     Concerning Viktor Friedman's comment on Macedonian, it makes  
> sense to test if it might be a Balkan areal feature.
>     Vladimir
>      пт, 11 янв. 2019 г. в 20:53, Ponrawee Prasertsom  
> <ponrawee.pra at gmail.com>:
>> Dear all,                 
>>         I am looking for languages where goal markers (case  
>> affixes, prepositions, etc. corresponding to English /to/)  
>> developed into zero, i.e. are lost. That is, from something like /I  
>> go to school/ to /I go school./ Does anyone know of such cases?
>>         Currently, I am aware of only one such case: goal  
>> preposition loss on Asia Minor Greek (Karatsareas and  
>> Georgakopoulos 2016), which reconstructs history from variation  
>> among dialects (se > se/∅ > ∅).
>>         Ideally, I would like cases with attested historical data,  
>> but reconstruction or any other relevant data such as ongoing  
>> change etc. is also welcome. 
>>         Reference:
>>         Karatsareas, Petros and Thanasis Georgakopoulos. 2016. From  
>> syntagmatic to paradigmatic spatial zeroes: The loss of the  
>> preposition se in inner Asia Minor Greek. STUF - Language Typology  
>> and Universals, 69(2), 309-340.
>>          Yours sincerely,
>> --
>>                               Ponrawee Prasertsom
>>            Graduate Student
>>            Department of Linguistics
>>            Faculty of Arts, Chulalongkorn University
>>            Bangkok, Thailand
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