[Lingtyp] Plural markers on (already) plural pronouns

[Geoffrey Haig]

Dear Ponrawee,

not sure if you're also interested in first and second person pronouns, 
but in Turkish the first and second person plural pronouns, biz and siz 
'we', 'you.PL', can also take the regular plural ending from nouns, 
yielding biz-ler and siz-ler respectively. These forms add nuances of 
politeness and other aspects to the pronoun that I have never fully 
understood, but are doubtless described in the available grammars (try 
Kerslake and Göksel's (2005) Turkish. A comprehensive grammar. Routledge).

best

Geoff


Am 15.11.2019 um 17:01 schrieb Ponrawee Prasertsom:
> Dear all,
>
> I have been looking at a number of Tai languages and found that in 
> some of these languages, plural pronouns can optionally take a plural 
> marker normally used on common nouns. For instance, in Shan 
> (Southwestern Tai), the third person plural pronoun /khau/ can 
> optionally take the plural marker /cɯ(nai)/, viz. /khau cɯ(nai)--/at 
> least according to Cushing 1871.
>
> Assuming this analysis is correct (if it's not please kindly inform 
> me), I'm wondering how rare this is for pronouns? A quick lookup 
> revealed that a similar phenomenon called "double plural marking" is 
> found in some languages, but seems to be restricted to common nouns 
> only. Does anyone know of any other instances like this for pronouns 
> in other languages?
>
> Sources: Cushing, Josiah Nelson. Grammar of the Shan Language. 
> Rangoon: American Mission Press, 1871.
>
> Best regards,
>
> -- 
> Ponrawee Prasertsom
>
> Graduate Student
> Department of Linguistics
> Faculty of Arts, Chulalongkorn University
> Bangkok, Thailand
>
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