[Lingtyp] Lingtyp Digest, Vol 61, Issue 15
Larry M. HYMAN
hyman at berkeley.edu
Thu Oct 17 20:19:59 UTC 2019
One can look at Berber and languages of the African horn, but my favorite
has always been Bella Coola (Nuxalk), based on Stanley Newman:
"[There is] no phonemically significant phenomena of stress or pitch
associated with syllables or words.... When two or more syllabics occur in
a word or sentence, one can clearly hear different degrees of articulatory
force. But these relative stresses in a sequence of acoustic syllables do
not remain constant in repetitions of the utterance." (Newman 1947:132)
Newman, Stanley. (1947). Bella Coola I: Phonology. *International Journal
of American Linguistics* 13.129-134.
On Thu, Oct 17, 2019 at 1:09 PM John Mansfield <jbmansfield at gmail.com>
wrote:
> Hi Adam!
>
> I would add Murrinhpatha to the languages Matthew Gordon mentions as
> having only phrase-level intonation, previously described as stress.
>
> Murrinhpatha has just one accent per phon phrase, anchored to the
> penultimate syllable of the final Pword in the phrase. I cannot find any
> other form of systematic prominence.
> Often the phon phrase only contains one word, so it may seem like word
> stress, but you do get some multi-word phrases, in which only the final
> word bears an accent.
>
> See Mansfield 2019, Murrinhpatha morphology and phonology.
>
>
> On Fri, 18 Oct 2019 at 04:54, <lingtyp-request at listserv.linguistlist.org>
> wrote:
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>> Today's Topics:
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>> 1. Re: languages without word level stress (Matthew Gordon)
>> 2. Re: languages without word level stress (Claire Bowern)
>> 3. Re: languages without word level stress (Ian Maddieson)
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>> Message: 1
>> Date: Thu, 17 Oct 2019 10:29:54 -0700
>> From: Matthew Gordon <mgordon at linguistics.ucsb.edu>
>> To: TALLMAN Adam <Adam.TALLMAN at cnrs.fr>
>> Cc: "lingtyp at listserv.linguistlist.org"
>> <lingtyp at listserv.linguistlist.org>
>> Subject: Re: [Lingtyp] languages without word level stress
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>> Hi Adam,
>>
>> Languages without word stress appear to be pretty common (and increasingly
>> more so given recent re-analyses of languages traditionally described as
>> having stress) but only phrase-level intonation. Probably a more secure
>> example than French (which does display certain attributes suggesting
>> metrical prominence) would be Korean (also analyzed as having word-level
>> stress in the past) examined in work by Sun-Ah Jun (e.g. 1993, 1998).
>> Other
>> languages with a similar prosodic file (intonation but not word stress)
>> include West Greenlandic (Arnhold 2014), Halh Mongolian (Karlsson 2014)
>> and
>> Turkish under certain analyses (Özçelik 2012). (There seem to be many
>> others as well.) All of these languages have in common that at one time
>> (and even currently) have been proposed to have word-level stress that (in
>> most of the cases) gravitates toward the periphery of a domain, which is
>> also the site for pitch movements attributed to an intonation system.
>> Reliable diagnostics for definitively distinguishing between word stress
>> and prominence attributed to intonation are often difficult to find.
>>
>> References:
>>
>> Arnhold, Anja. 2014. Prosodic structure and focus realization in West
>> Greenlandic. In Jun, Sun-Ah (ed.), *Prosodic typology II: The phonology of
>> intonation and phrasing, *216-51. New York: Oxford University Press.
>>
>> Jun, Sun-Ah. 1993. The phonetics and phonology of Korean prosody. Ph. D.
>> dissertation, The Ohio State University.
>>
>> Jun, Sun-Ah. 1998. The Accentual Phrase in the Korean prosodic hierarchy.
>> Phonology 15, 189-226.
>>
>> Karlsson, Anastasia M. 2014. The intonational phonology of Mongolian. In
>> Sun-Ah Jun (ed.), *Prosodic typology II: The phonology of intonation and
>> phrasing*, pp. 187-215. New York: Oxford University Press.
>>
>> Özçelik, Öner. 2012. Redefining the prosodic hierarchy. *McGill Working
>> Papers in Linguistics* 22.1 (
>> https://www.mcgill.ca/mcgwpl/files/mcgwpl/ozcelik2012.pdf)
>>
>>
>> Best,
>>
>> Matt
>>
>> On Thu, Oct 17, 2019 at 6:44 AM TALLMAN Adam <Adam.TALLMAN at cnrs.fr>
>> wrote:
>>
>> > Hey all,
>> >
>> > This is just a query for sources.
>> >
>> > I'm looking for languages that have been explicitly described as having
>> no
>> > word-level stress. I was under the impression that this was fairly
>> common,
>> > but apparently the existence of such languages (e.g. French) is
>> > controversial [?].
>> >
>> > To be clear, I mean stress in Hyman's sense of a single culminative and
>> > obligatory marking of prominence.
>> >
>> > (After that, I'm wondering whether there have been cases of languages
>> that
>> > are described as containing neither word-level nor phrase-level stress
>> in
>> > the same sense).
>> >
>> > best,
>> >
>> > Adam
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > Adam James Ross Tallman (PhD, UT Austin)
>> > ELDP-SOAS -- Postdoctorante
>> > CNRS -- Dynamique Du Langage (UMR 5596)
>> > Bureau 207, 14 av. Berthelot, Lyon (07)
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>> Date: Thu, 17 Oct 2019 13:45:38 -0400
>> From: Claire Bowern <clairebowern at gmail.com>
>> To: Eva Lindström <evali at ling.su.se>
>> Cc: TALLMAN Adam <Adam.TALLMAN at cnrs.fr>,
>> "lingtyp at listserv.linguistlist.org"
>> <lingtyp at listserv.linguistlist.org>
>> Subject: Re: [Lingtyp] languages without word level stress
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>> See also Maskikit-Essed and Gussenhoven (2016), which also has some links
>> to other languages, as well as diagnostics.
>> http://gep.ruhosting.nl/carlos/2016_Maskikit_Gussenhoven.pdf
>> Claire
>>
>> On Thu, Oct 17, 2019 at 1:20 PM Eva Lindström <evali at ling.su.se> wrote:
>>
>> > Dear Adam, I think you will find that Kuot meets the requirements;
>> please
>> > see:
>> >
>> > Lindström, Eva & Remijsen, Bert. 2005. “Aspects of the prosody of Kuot,
>> a
>> > language where intonation ignores stress”. *Linguistics* 43:4, 839–870
>> >
>> > Best,
>> >
>> > Eva
>> >
>> > On Thu, 17 Oct 2019 at 15:45, TALLMAN Adam <Adam.TALLMAN at cnrs.fr>
>> wrote:
>> >
>> >> Hey all,
>> >>
>> >> This is just a query for sources.
>> >>
>> >> I'm looking for languages that have been explicitly described as having
>> >> no word-level stress. I was under the impression that this was fairly
>> >> common, but apparently the existence of such languages (e.g. French) is
>> >> controversial [?].
>> >>
>> >> To be clear, I mean stress in Hyman's sense of a single culminative and
>> >> obligatory marking of prominence.
>> >>
>> >> (After that, I'm wondering whether there have been cases of languages
>> >> that are described as containing neither word-level nor phrase-level
>> stress
>> >> in the same sense).
>> >>
>> >> best,
>> >>
>> >> Adam
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> Adam James Ross Tallman (PhD, UT Austin)
>> >> ELDP-SOAS -- Postdoctorante
>> >> CNRS -- Dynamique Du Langage (UMR 5596)
>> >> Bureau 207, 14 av. Berthelot, Lyon (07)
>> >> Numero celular en bolivia: +59163116867
>> >>
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>> Date: Thu, 17 Oct 2019 11:53:59 -0600
>> From: Ian Maddieson <ianm at berkeley.edu>
>> To: TALLMAN Adam <Adam.TALLMAN at cnrs.fr>
>> Cc: lingtyp at listserv.linguistlist.org
>> Subject: Re: [Lingtyp] languages without word level stress
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>> It depends on what you mean by “no stress” of course. The LAPDyD database
>> has 183 languages which are classified as having
>> no stress. The list of these is attached. You can check out most of these
>> by logging in to LAPSyD (http://www.lapsyd.ddl.cnrs.fr/index.php)
>> and go to the references cited as sources. The list of languages
>> concerned is in the attached word file. There are 284 languages listed
>> as having a ‘minor’ role for stress — this is usually when there is
>> perceptible prominence which has a predictable location — and 171
>> languages with a lexical (contrastive) function for stress. So ‘no
>> stress’ is more frequent in this sample than contrastive stress, but
>> the most common pattern is for stress to fall at a predictable location.
>>
>> Ian
>>
>>
>> > On Oct 17, 2019, at 07:44, TALLMAN Adam <Adam.TALLMAN at cnrs.fr> wrote:
>> >
>> > Hey all,
>> >
>> > This is just a query for sources.
>> >
>> > I'm looking for languages that have been explicitly described as having
>> no word-level stress. I was under the impression that this was fairly
>> common, but apparently the existence of such languages (e.g. French) is
>> controversial [?].
>> >
>> > To be clear, I mean stress in Hyman's sense of a single culminative and
>> obligatory marking of prominence.
>> >
>> > (After that, I'm wondering whether there have been cases of languages
>> that are described as containing neither word-level nor phrase-level stress
>> in the same sense).
>> >
>> > best,
>> >
>> > Adam
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > Adam James Ross Tallman (PhD, UT Austin)
>> > ELDP-SOAS -- Postdoctorante
>> > CNRS -- Dynamique Du Langage (UMR 5596)
>> > Bureau 207, 14 av. Berthelot, Lyon (07)
>> > Numero celular en bolivia: +59163116867
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>> Ian Maddieson
>>
>> Department of Linguistics
>> University of New Mexico
>> MSC03-2130
>> Albuquerque NM 87131-0001
>>
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