[Lingtyp] 'Take' as diachronic source for causative? 'Stand' for ingressive?

[Natalia Levshina]

Dear Claudia,

you can find some examples of 'take' as a verb expressing a causing event
in my database of causatives (constructions described as SVC are included):

https://github.com/levshina/TypoCaus

They are not so rare, in fact. Here are the frequencies of different
lexical meanings from my database, where I could trace them.

    make_do        give         put        send        take         say
 affect
         24           5           4           3           3           2
      1
        ask       bring     command   establish EXISTENTIAL       grasp
 pull_out
          1           1           1           1           1           1
      1
      stand       treat        work
          1           1           1

All the best,
Natalia

On Thu, Aug 20, 2020 at 5:36 PM David Gil <gil at shh.mpg.de> wrote:

> Dear Claudia,
>
> A complex pattern of polysemy involving, among many other items, 'take'
> and causative, is described in Gil (2017) for several languages of
> Northwest New Guinea, Austronesian and Non-Austronesian.  A possible
> example of partial 'take'/causative coexpression is provided by the isolate
> language Yawa.  More commonly, though, the 'take'/causative connection is
> mediated by 'give', with lots of languages exhibiting 'take'/'give'
> coexpression (e.g. Hatam, Meyah, Irarutu), and many other languages in the
> same region (e.g. Abun, Waropen, Roon) displaying 'give'/causative
> coexpression.
>
>
>
> Gil, David (2017) "Roon ve, DO/GIVE Coexpression, and Language Contact in
> Northwest New Guinea", in A. Schapper ed., *Contact and Substrate in the
> Languages of Wallacea Part 1*, *NUSA* 62:41-100. (
> http://hdl.handle.net/10108/89844)
>
> Best,
>
> David
>
> On 18/08/2020 15:06, Claudia Wegener wrote:
>
> Dear all,
>
> It was suggested to me that grammaticalization of the verb 'take' to a
> causative marker is typologically unusual, and indeed, apart from the
> mention of Twi and Nupe (in Kuteva et al. 2019 and sources cited therein)
> and Fon (Lefebvre 1991) I have found little to no information on languages
> where this has happened... Would any of you know any other languages and
> could point me towards publications I could cite?
>
> And related to this, I have been even less successful at finding languages
> where the verb for 'to stand' (as posture verb) has been grammaticalized to
> function as a marker for ingressive - if you know of any, would you be so
> kind to point me to any publications?
>
> Many thanks in advance,
>
> Claudia
>
> References:
>
> Lefebvre, Claire. 1991. *Take* serial verb constructions in Fon. In
> Claire Lefebvre (ed.), *Serial Verbs: Grammatical, Comparative* *and
> Cognitive Approaches*, 37-78. Amsterdam, Philadelphia: Benjamins.
>
> Kuteva, Tania, Bernd Heine, Bo Hong, Haiping Long, Heiko Narrog & Seongha
> Rhee (eds.). 2019. *World Lexicon of Grammaticalization*, 2nd edition.
> Cambridge: Cambridge University Press.
>
> --
> Claudia Wegener
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> Institut für Linguistik
> Universität zu Köln
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Natalia Levshina
Max Planck Institute for Psycholinguistics
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