[Lingtyp] content question maarker

[David Gil]

Mohammad,

You're very welcome.  Perhaps I could ask you a question of my own about 
the Hamedani dialect of Persian. I am interested in how you ask "What is 
your name?".  In Standard Persian I believe it is something like "Esme 
chi ache", or maybe "Esme to chie".  What would the equivalent sentence 
look like in Hamedani?

Thanks,

David


On 16/12/2021 21:52, mrasekhmahand at yahoo.com wrote:
> Dear David,
> Thank you very much. It seems that what you say about Malay is very 
> similar to what we found in this Persian variety.
> Best
> Mohammad
>
> On 16 Dec 2021 15:26, David Gil <gil at shh.mpg.de> wrote:
>
>     Dear Mohammad,
>
>     Malay/Indonesian has some of the things you are searching for.
>
>     1.  In several varieties of Malay/Indonesian, there is a particle
>     (Standard Malay/Indonesian /kah/, Papuan Malay /ka/, Kupang Malay
>     /ko/) whose variegated functions include (a) forming a polar
>     question; and (b) marking a content question, by cooccuring with a
>     WH word.  The latter would be an example of double marking of
>     content questions.
>
>     2.  The verb /coba/, whose basic meaning is 'try', is also
>     commonly used as a polite imperative marker, and this latter use
>     is also generalized to content questions, where it seems to mean
>     something like "please try and answer this question".  I believe
>     /coba/ does not occur in polar questions (though I would have to
>     double check this).
>
>     In principle, the above two strategies should be able to cooccur
>     with a WH word to yield what would be triple marking of content
>     questions.  However I was not able to find any clear cut examples
>     of this in our corpus, and I suspect that such triple marking
>     might be precluded by the contradictory semantic values of the two
>     forms, the particle /kah/ka/ko/ being associated with a basic
>     meaning of uncertainty, while /coba/ seeming to maintain its
>     implicit imperative function.  But this requires further thought ...
>
>     David
>
>
>     On 16/12/2021 09:33, mohammad rasekh wrote:
>
>         Dear all,
>         A student of mine while gathering a spoken corpus for a
>         geographical variety of Persian has noticed that this variety
>         is using a fixed form of the verb to see, 'bin-i' (see-2SG) as
>         polar question marker (1) and in content questions (2,3) along
>         with wh-word:
>
>         1) bin-i         miy-/ād?/
>             see-2SG   come-3SG
>         'Does s/he come?'
>
>         2) bin-i        koj/ā-st?/
>         /     see-2SG    where-be.3SG/
>         /    'Where is s/he?'/
>         /
>         /
>         3) bin-i /ši /šod-e?//
>         //see-2SG      what   become-3SG//
>         //   'What happened?'//
>         //
>         //
>         Two questions:
>         First: Is there any other language which uses a polar question
>         marker originating from verb?
>         Second: Is double marking of content questions attested?
>
>         All the best,
>         Mohammad
>
>         Mohammad Rasekh-Mahand
>         Linguistics Department,
>         Bu-Ali Sina University,
>         Hamedan, Iran.
>         Postal Code: 6517838695
>         https://basu.academia.edu/MohammadRasekhmahand
>         <https://basu.academia.edu/MohammadRasekhmahand>
>
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>     David Gil
>
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>     Department of Linguistic and Cultural Evolution
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>
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>
>
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David Gil

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Department of Linguistic and Cultural Evolution
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