[Lingtyp] 'As soon as' constructions

Jess Tauber tetrahedralpt at gmail.com
Sat Feb 27 07:29:31 UTC 2021

Hi folks- dunno if this is relevant, but in Yahgan (a critically endangered
genetic isolate from Tierra del Fuego) there is the morpheme
ku:khaitakun (colon marks tenseness of preceding vowel), which might be
translated as 'and then (immediately upon)', found in several places in the
three biblical texts translated by Thomas Bridges in the late 19th century
(but not otherwise described in surviving grammatical descriptions).
Morphologically it appears to be decomposable into ku:k(a) 'same as,
similarly', gaiata progressive suffix, and -kun, which is the present
participle. gaiata is likely related etymologically to verb haina
(irregular present tense haita) 'to go'.  I can't cite any particular line
from Luke, John, or Acts of the Apostles with ku:khaitakun off the top of
my head, but I can look and see if I can find a couple.

Jess Tauber

On Fri, Feb 26, 2021 at 11:11 PM Randy J. LaPolla <randy.lapolla at gmail.com>

> Dear Jesús,
> In the Trung (Dulong) language (Sino-Tibetan; northwest Yunnan, China)
> there is a special pattern like that that only shows up in procedural
> texts. Here is a link to a collection of seven Dulong texts:
> LaPolla, Randy J. 2001. Dulong texts: Seven fully analyzed narrative and
> procedural texts. *Linguistics of the Tibeto-Burman Area *24.2:1-39.
> https://personal.ntu.edu.sg/randylapolla/Papers/LaPolla_2001_Dulong_texts_-_Seven_fully_analyzed_narrative_and_procedural_texts.pdf
> Here is the description of the pattern from the collection:
> The first four are procedural texts, and the last three are
> traditional Dulong folk stories. In the procedural texts, a pattern of
> discourse
> segmentation can be seen where several clauses will end in a reduplicated
> verb,
> then will be followed by an unredupiicated verb. This has the sense of 'Do
> this,
> this, this, and then this', or 'Having done this, and this, then do this.'
> The next
> segment then generally begins 'Having finished .. .', repeating the last
> verb, and
> then goes on to start another series like the one before.
> Hope it is useful.
> Randy
> -----
> *Randy J. LaPolla, PhD FAHA* (羅仁地)
> Professor of Linguistics, with courtesy appointment in Chinese, School of
> Humanities
> Nanyang Technological University
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> http://randylapolla.info/
> (personal.ntu.edu.sg/randylapolla)
> Most recent books:
> *The Sino-Tibetan Languages, 2nd Edition (*2017)
> https://www.routledge.com/The-Sino-Tibetan-Languages-2nd-Edition/LaPolla-Thurgood/p/book/9781138783324
> *Sino-Tibetan Linguistics *(2018)
> https://www.routledge.com/Sino-Tibetan-Linguistics/LaPolla/p/book/9780415577397
> On 27 Feb 2021, at 11:15 AM, Jesus Francisco Olguin Martinez <
> olguinmartinez at ucsb.edu> wrote:
> Dear all,
> I hope this message finds you well.
> In my sample, various languages express 'as soon as' by means of
> constructions where the verb of the subordinate clause is doubled and the
> second component is negated (e.g. 'having gone not having gone...'='as soon
> as I went...')  or constructions where the subordinate verb is followed by
> 'or not' ('having gone or not...'='as soon as I went...') (cf. Olguin
> Martinez et al 2019). This seems to be attested in:
> 1. Georgian
> 2. Lezgian
> 3. Turkish
> 4. Japanese
> Haspelmath (1993: 386) mentions that this construction exists in the
> neighboring Turkic languages. Besides Turkish, are you aware of any other
> Turkic languages that have a similar construction to express 'as soon as'?
> With respect to verb doubling without negative markers, it seems that
> various languages of my sample, particularly West African languages,
> express this semantic relations by means of this strategy (e.g. 'arrived he
> arrived'..='as soon as he arrived..' (cf. Lefebvre and Brousseau 2002; Fiedler
> 2014; Olguin Martinez et al 2019) . This also seems to be common is
> Creole languages (Michaelis et al. 2013; Olguin Martinez et al 2019),
> among many other languages of my sample. Are you aware of any paper that
> has explored this phenomenon? Any languages that have this strategy to
> express 'as soon as' or other temporal adverbial relations?
> Thank you very much in advance.
> Best,
> --
> Jesús Olguín Martínez
> Ph.D. Candidate, Dept. of Linguistics
> *University of California, Santa Barbara (UCSB)*
> http://www.linguistics.ucsb.edu/people/jesús-olguín-martínez
> References
> Fiedler, Ines. 2014. Why are ‘as soon as’ clauses marked for
> predicate-centered focus. Handout, Humboldt-Universität zu Berlin.
> Haspelmath, Martin. 1993. *A grammar of Lezgian*. Berlin: Mouton de
> Gruyter.
> Lefebvre, Claire & Anne-Marie Brousseau. 2002. *A grammar of Fongbe. *Berlin:
> Mouton de Gruyter.
> Michaelis, Susanne Maria, Martin Haspelmath & the APiCS Consortium. 2013.
> Verb doubling in temporal Clauses. In Michaelis, Susanne Maria, Maurer,
> Philippe, Haspelmath, Martin & Huber, Magnus (eds.), *The atlas of pidgin
> and creole language structures*, Oxford: Oxford University Press.
> Olguin Martinez, Jesus, Bernard Comrie, and Eric W. Campbell. 2019. 'As
> soon as' clauses: A typological study of temporally subsequent events.
> Handout of talk given  at the 52nd Annual Meeting of the Societas
> Linguistica Europaea.
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