[Lingtyp] 'eye' > singulative marker?

Randy J. LaPolla randy.lapolla at gmail.com
Fri Oct 15 02:11:34 UTC 2021

Hi Alex and Jussi,
I think the ‘mesh of the net’ is also relevant here. Tagalog mata and Chinese 目 mù both can refer to the mesh of a net, and in Chinese the openings in the net can be enumerated using ‘eye’, e.g. 
60 eye ASSOC strainer/sieve
‘a sieve with 60 holes’


> On 15 Oct 2021, at 6:36 AM, Alex Francois <alex.francois.cnrs at gmail.com> wrote:
> dear Jussi,
> Austronesian languages also tend to show rich polysemies around the noun for 'eye'.  
> The word reconstructs as an etymon *mata in PMP (Proto Malayo Polynesian), and *maCa in Proto Austronesian.
> Robert Blust's online Austronesian Comparative Dictionary (ACD) has a rich entry for PMP *mata :
> https://www.trussel2.com/acd/acd-s_m.htm#30830 <https://www.trussel2.com/acd/acd-s_m.htm#30830>
> PMP  *mata  “eye, face, focal point, center or most prominent part; hole, aperture; doorway, window; budding part of plant; ‘eye’ of coconut; knot in wood; sun; core of a boil; blade of a knife; to awaken; operculum of a snail; mesh of a net; eye of a needle; noose of a trap; hearth; direction of the wind; head of a river; spring, source; lid, cover”
> While this poly-gloss does not include "singulative marker" as such, some of the examples cited by Blust do include such meanings in certain modern Austronesian languages:
> Karo Batak <https://www.trussel2.com/acd/acd-l_S.htm#Sangir>	mata	eye
> ŋke-mata
> counting classifier for counting grains of rice
> Sangir <https://www.trussel2.com/acd/acd-l_S.htm#Sangir>
> mata	eye; counting classifier used in counting snares and fishhooks
> Arosi <https://www.trussel2.com/acd/acd-l_A.htm#Arosi>	maa	eye; face; hole, opening, mesh of a net, gate; edge, point, brim; front of a person or house; numerical unit in counting fish hooks, needles, stakes, flints, fishing rods, houses, traps, slings, armlets and matches; a spot, stain, crystal in rock, a groove for rubbing fire in a soft stick; to look at, stare; a circle; to lead
> Futunan <https://www.trussel2.com/acd/acd-l_F.htm#Futunan>	mata	face (plural); eye; numeral classifier for counting fish; cutting edge, blade; front of something, in front
> Blust, Robert. 2021. Online Austronesian Comparative Dictionary (ACD). 
> Honolulu: University of Hawaiʻi at Mānoa.
> [https://www.trussel2.com/acd <https://www.trussel2.com/acd>]
> Also, from my data on Vanuatu languages: 
> Mwotlap (an Austronesian language of Vanuatu) has a noun mete 'eye; opening+'… (<*mata) which functions as a singulative marker with certain nouns:
> vit   “stars (in the night sky)”  →  mete vit  “a star (taken individually)”
> best
> Alex
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> On Thu, 14 Oct 2021 at 10:05, Randy J. LaPolla <randy.lapolla at gmail.com <mailto:randy.lapolla at gmail.com>> wrote:
> Dear Jussi,
> In Chinese there are two words for ‘eye’, mù (目) and yǎn (眼)--the former is older than the latter--and both are used in ways relevant to what you are looking for:
> The former is used for ’item’ of a larger whole, like in
> 目錄、書目、要目、條目、目次
> mùlù, shùmù, yaōmù, tiáomu, mùcì
> eye-record book-eye, important-eye, line-eye, eye-order
> ‘record of items’, ’table of contents’, ‘important points’, 'items in a text', ‘ordered list of items'
> The latter is used as a measure word for wells:
> 一眼井
> yî yǎn jǐng
> one eye well
> ‘one well’
> Hope this helps.
> Randy
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>> On 14 Oct 2021, at 3:39 AM, Jussi Ylikoski <jussi.ylikoski at oulu.fi <mailto:jussi.ylikoski at oulu.fi>> wrote:
>> Dear Colleagues, 
>> In honor of World Sight Day (the second Thursday of October), I am looking for information about nouns denoting 'eye' being grammaticalized into singulative markers of some kind. 
>> The best-known example might be Hungarian szem 'eye', which is, however, generally and obviously better considered a kind of classifier among other classifiers. However, many cognates of szem in the easternmost (Samoyed, Khanty and Mansi) and the northernmost (Saami) branches of Uralic appear to deserve to be characterized as some kind of singulative markers, as seen in the following North Saami compound-like expressions that could, in principle be reconstructed all the way to Proto-Uralic: 
>> North Saami 
>> čalbmi 'eye' 
>> varra-čalbmi 'drop of blood' (~ North Khanty wŭr-sem id.) 
>> jiekŋa-čalbmi 'particle of ice' (~ Hungarian jég-szem 'hailstone') 
>> muorje-čalbmi 'single berry' 
>> vuokta-čalbmi 'single hair (on a human head)' 
>> Interestingly, similar 'eye' singulatives can also be found in the neighboring Ket (see Helimski's "S-singulatives in Ket" at https://www.degruyter.com/document/doi/10.31826/jlr-2017-143-404/html <https://www.degruyter.com/document/doi/10.31826/jlr-2017-143-404/html>), but otherwise there seems to be little global information about the origins of singulative markers, and even less about potentially analogous singulatives based on 'eye' in particular.
>> Anne Storch's (2014: 278) grammar of Luwo contains the solitary example wɔ́ŋ jɛ́n [eye chicken:COLL] 'one chicken', though. I am also aware of the colexification of EYE, SEED, GRAIN etc., which looks like a natural route to singulatives (https://clics.clld.org/graphs/subgraph_1248 <https://clics.clld.org/graphs/subgraph_1248>).
>> So I am wondering whether there are other similar 'eye' singulatives out there, in addition to Uralic and Yeniseian (and Luwo)? 
>> Best regards, 
>> Jussi 
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