[Lingtyp] Someone whose father ...

[Raffaele Simone]

Many thanks to everyone for your contribution.

Raffaele

Il 16/02/2022 14:48, Peter Austin ha scritto:
> Diyari, South Australia, is unlike the other Australian languages 
> mentioned so far in that there is no bereavement suffix but rather the 
> following bereavement lexical items and idioms:
>
> kupa matyumatyu 'orphan when only the child's father is deceased'
> kupa ngamathungka 'orphan when only the mother is deceased'
> kupa ngamurru 'orphan when both father and mother are deceased'
>
> and derivatives like:
>
> ngamururibana 'to make an orphan' (by killing the father, after the 
> mother has already died)
>
> As well as idioms:
>
> ngama kaldri 'bitter breast', i.e. a child that cannot drink at its 
> mother's breast, because she has died.
> ngama karla 'empty breasts', i.e. a woman whose new-born child has died
>
> mangawarru 'widow, woman whose husband has died' 'widower, man whose 
> wife has died'
>
> karna karlapankarirna 'to suffer a bereavement'
>
> karna warra 'half a man', i.e. man whose brother has died
>
> Jiwarli, Western Australia has the following terms:
>
> kungala 'man whose child has died'
> kujarri 'woman whose child has died'
>
> I hope this is of some use. Best wishes,
>
> Peter
>
>
> On Wed, 16 Feb 2022 at 12:33, Claire Bowern <clairebowern at gmail.com> 
> wrote:
>
>     Bardi (Nyulnyulan, NW Australia) also has a reasonably full set of
>     bereavement terms. There's a table on p47 of my 2012 grammar.
>
>     Bowern. Claire (2012). /A Grammar of Bardi. /Mouton De Gruyter
>
>     Claire
>
>     On Wed, Feb 16, 2022 at 7:09 AM Raffaele Simone
>     <rsimone at os.uniroma3.it> wrote:
>
>         This is exactly what I was looking for. Thanks a lot to you
>         (and to everyone).
>
>         Raffaele
>
>
>         Il 16/02/2022 12:52, Jean-Christophe Verstraete ha scritto:
>>         Hi Raffaele,
>>
>>         Following up on David Nash's message: see the following
>>         references for sets of bereavement terms in Umpila and
>>         Yintyingka (Paman < Pama-Nyungan), including the ones you are
>>         looking for. Hill (2018: 94) has further references to
>>         similar terms in the same region.
>>
>>         Hill, Clair. 2018. Person reference and interaction in
>>         Umpila/Kuuku Ya'u narrative. PhD, Nijmegen & Leuven. p 94-95.
>>
>>         <https://repository.ubn.ru.nl/handle/2066/199508>
>>         <https://repository.ubn.ru.nl/handle/2066/199508>
>>
>>         Verstraete, JC & B Rigsby. 2015. A grammar and lexicon of
>>         Yintyingka. Berlin: Mouton. (See index 'bereavement terms')
>>
>>         https://doi.org/10.1515/9781614519003
>>
>>         Jean-Christophe
>>
>>         On 2/16/2022 12:39 PM, Raffaele Simone wrote:
>>>
>>>         My question was: do you know any language referring
>>>         to*"someone whose child [brother, sister, etc.] has died"
>>>         *with a specific lexical item  (approx. correponding to
>>>         widow and orphan)?
>>>
>>>         RS
>>>
>>>         Il 16/02/2022 11:42, Sebastian Nordhoff ha scritto:
>>>>         On 2/16/22 11:36, Adam James Ross Tallman wrote:
>>>>>         Hey Simone,
>>>>>
>>>>>         My first question is what does "Someone to whom a child
>>>>>         has died" mean? 
>>>>
>>>>         X had a child. The child died.
>>>>
>>>>         Cf widow: X had a spouse. The spouse died.
>>>>         orphan: X had a parent. The parent died.
>>>>
>>>>         Best
>>>>         Sebastian
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