[Lingtyp] Approximative numerals with emotive content
Raffaele Simone
rsimone at os.uniroma3.it
Tue Feb 22 16:03:30 UTC 2022
Dear all,
on the non-numeral uses of numerals in various languages a very
important and instructive work is:
*Bazzanella*, Carla (with R. Pugliese & E. Strudsholm), /Numeri per
parlare. Da "quattro chiacchiere" a "grazie mille". /Bari & Rome:
Laterza 2011.
Best,
Raffaele
Il 22/02/2022 16:05, Paolo Ramat ha scritto:
> Dear Amanda,
> you are asking for <<numeral expressions which typically express
> larger, approximate numeric quantities (and encode some kind of
> emotive function>>: not necessarily).
> Here a couple of Italian examples:
> It. "nella manifestazione dei no-vax (= anti-covid vaccination
> persons) c'era(no) *appena un centinaio* di persone (= Germ./kaum
> hundert Leute/). I jilets-jaunes erano *alcune migliaia* (not
> emotive).
> You can have*centinaia / -o, migliaia/-o* but not *cinquantinaio nor
> *diecinaio: what you really find is *cinquantina*, *diecina *for the
> approximate numeric quantitity
> Best,
> Paolo
>
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> Il giorno mar 22 feb 2022 alle ore 15:29 Amanda Kann
> <amanda.kann at su.se> ha scritto:
>
> Dear typologists,
>
> (Apologies to those who have already seen this query through
> LinguistList!)
>
> I'm looking for corresponding expressions (in any language) to the
> approximative numeral phrases in the examples below –
> conventionalized numeral expressions which typically express
> larger, approximate numeric quantities and encode some kind of
> emotive function.
> I'm interested in the composition and value of these numerals, as
> well as their emphatic and emotive functions – if there are other
> expressions in the numeral domain in your language(s) that carry a
> similar illocutionary force, I would love to hear about them as well!
>
> Swedish [swe]: (from Bloggmix 2013, accessed through
> http://spraakbanken.gu.se/korp <http://spraakbanken.gu.se/korp>)
> Det finns nämligen femtioelva sorters myror.
> 'There are actually many types of ants' (lit. 'There are actually
> fifty-eleven types of ants')
>
> French [fra]: (Lavric 2010,
> https://doi.org/10.1163/9789004253247_008
> <https://doi.org/10.1163/9789004253247_008>)
> Il n’y a pas trente-six façons de voir la chose.
> 'There aren't very many ways of seeing the thing' (lit. 'There
> aren't thirty-six ways of seeing the thing')
>
> Danish [dan]: (from OpenSubtitles2018, accessed through
> http://opus.nlpl.eu <http://opus.nlpl.eu/>)
> Han fortalte mig 117 gange, at han ikke gjorde hende noget.
> 'He told me a thousand times that he didn't do anything to her'
> (lit. 'He told me 117 times that he didn't do anything to her')
>
> English [eng]: (from OpenSubtitles2018, accessed through
> http://opus.nlpl.eu <http://opus.nlpl.eu/>)
> For the umpteenth time, we are not getting a dog.
>
> Thank you very much in advance for any tips, examples or comments!
>
> Best regards,
>
> Amanda Kann
>
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