[Lingtyp] Approximative numerals with emotive content

Raffaele Simone rsimone at os.uniroma3.it
Tue Feb 22 16:03:30 UTC 2022


Dear all,

on the non-numeral uses of numerals in various languages a very 
important and instructive work is:

*Bazzanella*, Carla (with R. Pugliese & E. Strudsholm), /Numeri per 
parlare. Da "quattro chiacchiere" a "grazie mille". /Bari & Rome: 
Laterza 2011.

Best,

Raffaele

Il 22/02/2022 16:05, Paolo Ramat ha scritto:

> Dear Amanda,
> you are asking for <<numeral expressions which typically express 
> larger, approximate numeric quantities (and encode some kind of 
> emotive function>>: not necessarily).
> Here a couple of Italian examples:
> It. "nella manifestazione dei no-vax (= anti-covid vaccination 
> persons) c'era(no) *appena un centinaio*  di persone (= Germ./kaum 
> hundert Leute/).  I jilets-jaunes  erano *alcune migliaia*  (not 
> emotive).
> You can have*centinaia / -o, migliaia/-o* but not *cinquantinaio nor 
> *diecinaio: what you really find is *cinquantina*, *diecina *for the 
> approximate numeric quantitity
> Best,
> Paolo
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> Il giorno mar 22 feb 2022 alle ore 15:29 Amanda Kann 
> <amanda.kann at su.se> ha scritto:
>
>     Dear typologists,
>
>     (Apologies to those who have already seen this query through
>     LinguistList!)
>
>     I'm looking for corresponding expressions (in any language) to the
>     approximative numeral phrases in the examples below –
>     conventionalized numeral expressions which typically express
>     larger, approximate numeric quantities and encode some kind of
>     emotive function.
>     I'm interested in the composition and value of these numerals, as
>     well as their emphatic and emotive functions – if there are other
>     expressions in the numeral domain in your language(s) that carry a
>     similar illocutionary force, I would love to hear about them as well!
>
>     Swedish [swe]: (from Bloggmix 2013, accessed through
>     http://spraakbanken.gu.se/korp <http://spraakbanken.gu.se/korp>)
>     Det finns nämligen femtioelva sorters myror.
>     'There are actually many types of ants' (lit. 'There are actually
>     fifty-eleven types of ants')
>
>     French [fra]: (Lavric 2010,
>     https://doi.org/10.1163/9789004253247_008
>     <https://doi.org/10.1163/9789004253247_008>)
>     Il n’y a pas trente-six façons de voir la chose.
>     'There aren't very many ways of seeing the thing' (lit. 'There
>     aren't thirty-six ways of seeing the thing')
>
>     Danish [dan]: (from OpenSubtitles2018, accessed through
>     http://opus.nlpl.eu <http://opus.nlpl.eu/>)
>     Han fortalte mig 117 gange, at han ikke gjorde hende noget.
>     'He told me a thousand times that he didn't do anything to her'
>     (lit. 'He told me 117 times that he didn't do anything to her')
>
>     English [eng]: (from OpenSubtitles2018, accessed through
>     http://opus.nlpl.eu <http://opus.nlpl.eu/>)
>     For the umpteenth time, we are not getting a dog.
>
>     Thank you very much in advance for any tips, examples or comments!
>
>     Best regards,
>
>     Amanda Kann
>
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