[Lingtyp] Approximative numerals with emotive content

[Joachim Kokkelmans]

Kära Amanda,

Det finns ocksá "quarante-douze
<https://fr.wiktionary.org/wiki/quarante-douze>" pá franska, som ocksá blir
använd pá ett humoristiskt sätt. Pá tyska finns det uttrykket "zigtausend".

Med vänliga hälsningar,

Joachim Kokkelmans


Am Di., 22. Feb. 2022 um 16:05 Uhr schrieb Paolo Ramat <paoram at unipv.it>:

> Dear Amanda,
> you are asking for <<numeral expressions which typically express larger,
> approximate numeric quantities (and encode some kind of emotive function>>:
> not necessarily).
> Here a couple of Italian examples:
> It. "nella manifestazione dei no-vax (= anti-covid vaccination persons)
> c'era(no) *appena un centinaio*  di persone (= Germ.* kaum hundert Leute*).
> I jilets-jaunes  erano *alcune migliaia*  (not emotive).
> You can have* centinaia / -o, migliaia/-o* but not *cinquantinaio nor
> *diecinaio: what you really find is *cinquantina*, *diecina *for the
> approximate numeric quantitity
> Best,
> Paolo
>
> Prof. Dr. Paolo Ramat
> Accademia Nazionale dei Lincei, Socio corrispondente
> 'Academia Europaea'
> 'Societas Linguistica Europaea', Honorary Member
> Università di Pavia (retired)
> Istituto Universitario di Studi Superiori (IUSS Pavia) (retired)
>
> piazzetta Arduino 11 - I 27100 Pavia
> ##39 0382 27027
> 347 044 98 44
>
>
> Il giorno mar 22 feb 2022 alle ore 15:29 Amanda Kann <amanda.kann at su.se>
> ha scritto:
>
>> Dear typologists,
>>
>>
>>
>> (Apologies to those who have already seen this query through
>> LinguistList!)
>>
>> I'm looking for corresponding expressions (in any language) to the
>> approximative numeral phrases in the examples below – conventionalized
>> numeral expressions which typically express larger, approximate numeric
>> quantities and encode some kind of emotive function.
>> I'm interested in the composition and value of these numerals, as well as
>> their emphatic and emotive functions – if there are other expressions in
>> the numeral domain in your language(s) that carry a similar illocutionary
>> force, I would love to hear about them as well!
>>
>> Swedish [swe]: (from Bloggmix 2013, accessed through
>> http://spraakbanken.gu.se/korp)
>> Det finns nämligen femtioelva sorters myror.
>> 'There are actually many types of ants' (lit. 'There are actually
>> fifty-eleven types of ants')
>>
>> French [fra]: (Lavric 2010, https://doi.org/10.1163/9789004253247_008)
>> Il n’y a pas trente-six façons de voir la chose.
>> 'There aren't very many ways of seeing the thing' (lit. 'There aren't
>> thirty-six ways of seeing the thing')
>>
>> Danish [dan]: (from OpenSubtitles2018, accessed through
>> http://opus.nlpl.eu)
>> Han fortalte mig 117 gange, at han ikke gjorde hende noget.
>> 'He told me a thousand times that he didn't do anything to her' (lit. 'He
>> told me 117 times that he didn't do anything to her')
>>
>> English [eng]: (from OpenSubtitles2018, accessed through
>> http://opus.nlpl.eu)
>> For the umpteenth time, we are not getting a dog.
>>
>>
>>
>> Thank you very much in advance for any tips, examples or comments!
>>
>> Best regards,
>>
>> Amanda Kann
>>
>> *____________________________________*
>>
>> *Amanda Kann*
>>
>> Institutionen för lingvistik | *Department of **Linguistics*
>>
>> *Stockholms universitet | Stockholm University*
>> 106 91 Stockholm
>>
>>
>> *amanda.kann at su.se <amanda.kann at su.se>*
>> www.ling.su.se
>>
>> Personuppgiftsbehandling vid Stockholms universitet
>> <https://www.su.se/om-webbplats-cookies/personuppgifter>
>> *____________________________________*
>> _______________________________________________
>> Lingtyp mailing list
>> Lingtyp at listserv.linguistlist.org
>> http://listserv.linguistlist.org/mailman/listinfo/lingtyp
>>
> _______________________________________________
> Lingtyp mailing list
> Lingtyp at listserv.linguistlist.org
> http://listserv.linguistlist.org/mailman/listinfo/lingtyp
>
-------------- next part --------------
An HTML attachment was scrubbed...
URL: <http://listserv.linguistlist.org/pipermail/lingtyp/attachments/20220222/536a4c47/attachment.htm>