[Lingtyp] motion verbs

[Sergey Loesov]

Dear Guillaume,

Thanks a lot, this message of yours is important for my research into
verbal allative markers in Old Babylonian Akkadian!

Is *translational motion *same as translocation motion?

Best,

Sergey

On Mon, 6 Jun 2022 at 18:56, Guillaume Jacques <rgyalrongskad at gmail.com>
wrote:

> I think that any definition of a motion verb should take into account the
> concept of *associated motion*, about which a collective book edited by
> Harold Koch and Antoine Guillaume was published last year.  A. Guillaume's
> (2016) definition of AM is the following: "An AM marker is a grammatical
> morpheme that is associated with the verb and that has among its possible
> functions the coding of translational motion." The notion of *translational
> motion* seems to me useful to define motion verbs too (as opposed to
> motion involving part of the body, for instance).
>
> In addition, a non-motion verb taking an associated motion marker is
> turned into a motion verb, so that languages with grammaticalized AM have
> an open class of motion verbs.
>
>
> Reference
> Guillaume, Antoine 2016 Associated motion in South America: Typological
> and areal perspectives. Linguistic Typology, De Gruyter, 2016, 20 (1),
> ⟨10.1515/lingty-2016-0003⟩. ⟨halshs-01918336⟩
> Guillaume, Antoine and Harold Koch 2021. Associated Motion. Berlin: Mouton
> de Gruyter.
>
> Le lun. 6 juin 2022 à 16:36, Juergen Bohnemeyer <jb77 at buffalo.edu> a
> écrit :
>
>> Dear Sergey — Interesting question! I don’t think there’s anything in the
>> grammar of most languages that corresponds to or expresses the concept of
>> ‘motion.’
>>
>> The various subclasses of motion verbs can be defined on semantic
>> grounds: path verbs entail change of location; manner verbs describe
>> activities of agents/effectors that can cause change of location or
>> describe change of orientation in those same agents/effectors; transport
>> verbs are either causative path verbs or locate an object on a carrier
>> (‘carry on back’, ‘carry on hip’, etc.), and so on.
>>
>> But there’s no overarching definition that would encompass all those
>> subclasses, but no events that don’t involve motion. So a definition such
>> as ’The class of all verbs of a given language that is used to describe
>> exclusively motion events’ can at best be met disjunctively and thus
>> doesn’t define the most “natural” concept.
>>
>> The supposedly primitive concept ‘motion’ apparently just isn’t.
>>
>> An important reference on the typology of motion verbs is Wälchli (2009).
>>
>> HTH! — Juergen
>>
>> Wälchli, B. (2009). Motion events in parallel texts: A study in
>> primary-data typology. Habilitation thesis, University of Bern.
>>
>>
>> > On Jun 6, 2022, at 9:50 AM, Sergey Loesov <sergeloesov at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>> >
>> > Dear colleagues,
>> >
>> >  How do we properly define the concept “motion verb”? I am especially
>> interested in the telic variety, both transitive and intransitive ones.
>> >
>> >  Best wishes,
>> >
>> >
>> > Sergey
>> >
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