[Lingtyp] types of quantification

[Jess Tauber]

I wonder whether some types of ideophones/mimetics might fall into this
sort of classifier supercategory. In Japanese, for example, bisyllabic
mimetic forms generally have the classification property described by the
first syllable, and the larger spatiotemporal context described by the
second (such as whether normative spatial or temporal boundaries are
respected). Augmentative/diminutive consonantal shifts can tell you whether
the phenomena described are bigger or smaller than the norm (so 'more' or
'less').

Such analyses of ideophonic/mimetic systems are few and far between, so
it's no wonder linguists are generally unaware of them.

Prof. Shoko Hamano's doctoral thesis here:
https://ufdc.ufl.edu/AA00003806/00001/images/0

Jess Tauber


On Fri, Mar 4, 2022 at 8:03 AM Östen Dahl <oesten at ling.su.se> wrote:

> I think the answer to the question depends on what you want your
> general-comparative linguistic semantics to look like, in particular on how
> much you want it to reflect how quantifiers are grouped in individual
> languages.
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> Östen
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> *Från:* Christian Lehmann <christian.lehmann at uni-erfurt.de>
> *Skickat:* den 4 mars 2022 13:02
> *Till:* Östen Dahl <oesten at ling.su.se>; lingtyp at listserv.linguistlist.org
> *Ämne:* Re: Sv: [Lingtyp] types of quantification
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> Östen, what you mention is apparently a classification from a logical
> point of view. Accepted.
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> Is it useful from the point of view of (general-comparative) linguistic
> semantics to take the "classical" quantifiers of predicate logic out and to
> group numerals together with "inexact cardinality measures"? (Note that
> this is a neutral, not a rhetorical question.)
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> Am 04.03.2022 um 12:53 schrieb Östen Dahl:
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> These should all fall under the notion of “generalized quantifiers”
> discussed by logicians and formal semanticists, where quantifiers are
> regarded as denoting sets of sets. See e.g.
> https://plato.stanford.edu/entries/generalized-quantifiers/.
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> The classification follows naturally from the logical properties of the
> different quantifiers. (2a) and (2b) are the “classical” quantifiers of
> predicate logic. (1) indicate exact cardinality measures; (2c) inexact
> cardinality measures.
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>    1. Östen
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> *Från:* Lingtyp <lingtyp-bounces at listserv.linguistlist.org>
> <lingtyp-bounces at listserv.linguistlist.org> *För *Christian Lehmann
> *Skickat:* den 4 mars 2022 12:35
> *Till:* lingtyp at listserv.linguistlist.org
> *Ämne:* [Lingtyp] types of quantification
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> In some languages, numerals have the same distribution as quantifiers like
> 'some' or 'many'. From a functional point of view, too, for instance in
> view of the approximative numerals discussed last week, it makes sense to
> subsume the use of numerals under quantification. Then one might subdivide
> the field of quantification roughly as follows:
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>    1. Numeral quantification: 'one', 'two' ...
>    2. Non-numeral quantification
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>    1. Universal: 'all', 'every'
>    2. Existential: 'some'
>    3. Sizing: 'many', 'several', '(a) few', ....
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> Two questions:
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>    1. Has anything concerning such a classification been published which
>    I should know?
>    2. To the extent that the above is reasonable: Any suggestions for a
>    better terminology?
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