[Lingtyp] An ideophone for cough?

Jess Tauber tetrahedralpt at gmail.com
Fri Mar 11 13:50:49 UTC 2022


Korean (Seoul dialect) has a number of ideophones for 'cough', with a
concentration (in terms of initial consonant) in the set beginning with
initial aspirated k (spelled kh- in the Yale Romanization system). There
are many others distributed in Samuel Martin's dictionary, however. See
https://altaica.ru/LIBRARY/KOREAN/korean_english_dic.pdf (at least until
Russia cuts off access).

1669 khak, khak-khak; 1670 khallak, khallak khallak; 1671 kayak kayak,
kayak, kayak-khyak; 1672 khyayk, khellek; 1675 khok-khok, khollang,
khollak-khollak; 1678 khwulleng, khwullwuk.  These are then extended with
light verb constructions. In many cases these form sets related to each
other through augmentative-diminutive shifting involving changing the vowel
or the consonantal manner (so see also k- and kk- initial forms in the
first section of the dictionary). These changes detail the distribution of
the coughing in space and/or time, how forceful it is, and so on.  Also,
note that the Yale romanization system used in the above forms does NOT
have an obvious connection to surface phonology.

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On Fri, Mar 11, 2022 at 8:06 AM Jussi Ylikoski <jussi.ylikoski at oulu.fi>
wrote:

> Dear all,
>
> [mˈm̥m], this discussion sounds interesting! For pronunciation and
> translations for *ahem*, see https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/ahem with the
> interlanguage links. I just added *kröhöm*
> <https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/kr%C3%B6h%C3%B6m> into the Finnish entry
> at https://fi.wiktionary.org/wiki/ahem.
>
> Best,
>
> Jussi
>
>
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> *Frá:* Lingtyp <lingtyp-bounces at listserv.linguistlist.org> fyrir hönd
> David Gil <gil at shh.mpg.de>
> *Sent:* föstudagur, 11. mars 2022 14:47
> *Til:* lingtyp at listserv.linguistlist.org <
> lingtyp at listserv.linguistlist.org>
> *Efni:* Re: [Lingtyp] An ideophone for cough?
>
>
> Dear all,
>
> Not exactly ideophones or coughing, but English has "harrumph" and "ahem"
> to denote a sort of fake cough intentionally produced to express
> disapproval and/or draw attention.  (The two actually seem to differ in
> their status: whereas the former is kind of a regular verb, I don't think
> I've ever heard "ahem" pronounced — it seems to exist only in written form.)
>
> Do other languages have similar forms?
>
> David
>
>
> On 11/03/2022 11:58, Raffaele Simone wrote:
>
> Dear all,
>
> working on a paper on ideophones and their place in grammar and lexicon I
> happened to wonder how things are concerning cough.
>
> Romance languages and other which I am familiar with do not seem to have a
> standard ideophone for it and even less a stable an accepted written
> version of it.
>
> Do you know languages that have an ideophone for cough and even more a way
> of indicating it in writing?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Raffaele
>
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>
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> ------------------------------
> *Frá:* Lingtyp <lingtyp-bounces at listserv.linguistlist.org> fyrir hönd
> David Gil <gil at shh.mpg.de>
> *Sent:* föstudagur, 11. mars 2022 14:47
> *Til:* lingtyp at listserv.linguistlist.org <
> lingtyp at listserv.linguistlist.org>
> *Efni:* Re: [Lingtyp] An ideophone for cough?
>
>
> Dear all,
>
> Not exactly ideophones or coughing, but English has "harrumph" and "ahem"
> to denote a sort of fake cough intentionally produced to express
> disapproval and/or draw attention.  (The two actually seem to differ in
> their status: whereas the former is kind of a regular verb, I don't think
> I've ever heard "ahem" pronounced — it seems to exist only in written form.)
>
> Do other languages have similar forms?
>
> David
>
>
> On 11/03/2022 11:58, Raffaele Simone wrote:
>
> Dear all,
>
> working on a paper on ideophones and their place in grammar and lexicon I
> happened to wonder how things are concerning cough.
>
> Romance languages and other which I am familiar with do not seem to have a
> standard ideophone for it and even less a stable an accepted written
> version of it.
>
> Do you know languages that have an ideophone for cough and even more a way
> of indicating it in writing?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Raffaele
>
> --
> ===============
> Emeritus Professor, Università Roma Tre
> Hon C Lund University
> Membre de l'Académie Royale de Belgique
> Chevalier de l'Ordre des Arts et des Lettres de France
> Accademico della Crusca
> ===============
> Attività e pubblicazioni // Activity and publications http://uniroma3.academia.edu/RaffaeleSimone
>
>
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> David Gil
>
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> Department of Linguistic and Cultural Evolution
> Max Planck Institute for Evolutionary Anthropology
> Deutscher Platz 6, Leipzig, 04103, Germany
>
> Email: gil at shh.mpg.de
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