[Lingtyp] An ideophone for cough?

Fri Mar 11 14:07:52 UTC 2022

The prosaic (non-ideophonic) words for ‘cough’ indeed have iconic association to /k/ and /o/. In Johansson et al. (2020), they find that /k/ and /o/ occur frequently in hundreds of words for ‘cough’ in genealogically unrelated languages:
COUGH, LUNG, SNORE and THROAT were also associated with [+round] and
[back], but instead of /u/, the most commonly occurring cardinal sound was /o/
in all cases. In addition, COUGH was also associated with [–voice] which was
represented by the cardinal sound /k/. This seems to suggest that the common
phonetic denominator in the macro-concept PHARYNGEAL involves the back of
oral cavity and possibly also a somewhat more open mouth than the vowels of
AIRFLOW.

Johansson, N. E., Anikin, A., Carling, G., & Holmer, A. (2020). The typology of sound symbolism: Defining macro-concepts via their semantic and phonetic features. Linguistic Typology, 24(2), 253-310.

Regards,
Ian
On 11 Mar 2022, 2:59 PM +0100, Giurgea Ion <giurgeaion at yahoo.com>, wrote:
Dear all,
The Indo-European reconstructed root has a similar ideophonic basis - here is the entry in H. Rix (ed.,2001) Lexikon der indogermanischen Verben:
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On Friday, March 11, 2022, 03:52:52 PM GMT+2, JOO, Ian [Student] <ian.joo at connect.polyu.hk> wrote:

Dear Rafaelle,

here are the translations of Korean 콜록콜록 khollok-khollok that I have retrieved from the Naver Dictionaries (dict.naver.com).

Japanese ごほんごほん, こんこん. gohon-gohon, kon-kon
Mandarin 喀喀 ，吭吭 ，咳咳 kākā, kēngkēng, kéké
Vietnamese  sù sụ, khù khụ
Mongolian пөг пөг pög-pög
Indonesian  krok krok
Thai โขลก ๆ, ค๊อก ๆ, แค๊ก ๆ khlôok khlôok, khóok khóok, khéek khéek

Hope this helps.

Also, if you are interested in ideophones and iconicity, please join our Facebook group on Iconicity:
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From Uppsala,
Ian
On 11 Mar 2022, 2:22 PM +0100, Csilla Kász, M.A. <ckasz at isfas.uni-kiel.de>, wrote:

Hello,

The Hungarian counterpart of a fake cough is quite similar to the Finnish, but is usually said twice:

Köhöm-köhöm

the pronunciation is [køhøm]

Best,

Csilla

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Am 2022-03-11 14:06, schrieb Jussi Ylikoski:

Dear all,

[mˈm̥m], this discussion sounds interesting! For pronunciation and translations for ahem, see https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/ahem with the interlanguage links. I just added kröhöm<https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/kr%C3%B6h%C3%B6m> into the Finnish entry at https://fi.wiktionary.org/wiki/ahem.

Best,

Jussi

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Efni: Re: [Lingtyp] An ideophone for cough?

Dear all,

Not exactly ideophones or coughing, but English has "harrumph" and "ahem" to denote a sort of fake cough intentionally produced to express disapproval and/or draw attention.  (The two actually seem to differ in their status: whereas the former is kind of a regular verb, I don't think I've ever heard "ahem" pronounced — it seems to exist only in written form.)

Do other languages have similar forms?

David

On 11/03/2022 11:58, Raffaele Simone wrote:

Dear all,

working on a paper on ideophones and their place in grammar and lexicon I happened to wonder how things are concerning cough.

Romance languages and other which I am familiar with do not seem to have a standard ideophone for it and even less a stable an accepted written version of it.

Do you know languages that have an ideophone for cough and even more a way of indicating it in writing?

Thanks,

Raffaele

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Efni: Re: [Lingtyp] An ideophone for cough?

Dear all,

Not exactly ideophones or coughing, but English has "harrumph" and "ahem" to denote a sort of fake cough intentionally produced to express disapproval and/or draw attention.  (The two actually seem to differ in their status: whereas the former is kind of a regular verb, I don't think I've ever heard "ahem" pronounced — it seems to exist only in written form.)

Do other languages have similar forms?

David

On 11/03/2022 11:58, Raffaele Simone wrote:

Dear all,

working on a paper on ideophones and their place in grammar and lexicon I happened to wonder how things are concerning cough.

Romance languages and other which I am familiar with do not seem to have a standard ideophone for it and even less a stable an accepted written version of it.

Do you know languages that have an ideophone for cough and even more a way of indicating it in writing?

Thanks,

Raffaele

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