[Lingtyp] Lingtyp Digest, Vol 90, Issue 9

Fri Mar 11 17:33:39 UTC 2022

Dear Raffaele,

Does English "ahem" count for your purposes?

Best regards,
Lameen Souag
LACITO - CNRS / Sorbonne Nouvelle / INALCO
https://lameensouag.wordpress.com/

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>    1. An ideophone for cough? (Raffaele Simone)
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>    3. Re: An ideophone for cough? (hoelzlandreas at web.de)
>    4. Re: An ideophone for cough? (Jesse Gates)
>    5. Re: An ideophone for cough? (Maia Ponsonnet)
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> From: Raffaele Simone <rsimone at os.uniroma3.it>
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> Dear all,
>
> working on a paper on ideophones and their place in grammar and lexicon
> I happened to wonder how things are concerning cough.
>
> Romance languages and other which I am familiar with do not seem to have
> a standard ideophone for it and even less a stable an accepted written
> version of it.
>
> Do you know languages that have an ideophone for cough and even more a
> way of indicating it in writing?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Raffaele
>
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> From: Jesse Gates <stauskad at gmail.com>
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> Subject: Re: [Lingtyp] An ideophone for cough?
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> Dear Raffaele,
>
> I always thought the word ‘cough’ had imitative origins in Germanic.
>
> In Chinese 喀 kā (or reduplicated) is a coughing ideophone.
>
> Best regards,
>
> Jesse P. Gates, PhD
> Nankai University, School of Literature 南开大学文学院
> https://nankai.academia.edu/JesseGates
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> > On Mar 11, 2022, at 6:19 PM, hoelzlandreas at web.de wrote:
> >
> > 
> > Dear Raffaele,
> >
> > Manchu (Tungusic) has the following:
> >
> > keng 'the sound of coughing'
> > keng kang 'the sound of many people coughing or clearing their throats'
> > kohong kohong or korkong korkong 'the sound of repeated coughing'
> >
> > These would usually be integrated into the discourse with the help of
> the verb se- 'to say' that can also function as a quotative if following
> ideophones, imperatives, and direct speech.
> >
> > One of them is also the basis for the derivation of a verb:
> >
> > keng-si- or keng-še- 'to cough, to hack, to clear the throat; ...'
> >
> > Best,
> >
> > Andi Hölzl
> >
> > Gesendet: Freitag, 11. März 2022 um 10:58 Uhr
> > Von: "Raffaele Simone" <rsimone at os.uniroma3.it>
> > An: "LINGTYP (lingtyp at listserv.linguistlist.org)" <
> lingtyp at listserv.linguistlist.org>
> > Betreff: [Lingtyp] An ideophone for cough?
> >
> >
> > Dear all,
> >
> > working on a paper on ideophones and their place in grammar and lexicon
> I happened to wonder how things are concerning cough.
> >
> > Romance languages and other which I am familiar with do not seem to have
> a standard ideophone for it and even less a stable an accepted written
> version of it.
> >
> > Do you know languages that have an ideophone for cough and even more a
> way of indicating it in writing?
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Raffaele
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > ===============
> > Emeritus Professor, Università Roma Tre
> > Hon C Lund University
> > Membre de l'Académie Royale de Belgique
> > Chevalier de l'Ordre des Arts et des Lettres de France
> > Accademico della Crusca
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> From: Maia Ponsonnet <maia.ponsonnet at uwa.edu.au>
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> Hello,
> It seems to me that "cough" is used as an ideophone in English comic
> strips?
>
> [cid:0df6ced6-76c2-4e9a-8e7d-cd07453c2e76]
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> Cheers, Maïa
>
>
> Dr Maïa Ponsonnet
> Adjunct Researcher, Discipline of Linguistics
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> Subject: Re: [Lingtyp] An ideophone for cough?
>
> And Mandarin has an ideophone for coughing. For instance, in Guizhou
> (Southwestern Mandarin) there is:
>
> kung kung kung 'the sound of coughing'
>
> In Standard Pinyin, this would probably be written kong kong kong, but
> there does not appear to be a standardized written form for this in Chinese
> either.
>
> Followed by the general attributive marker de 的, this can function as an
> (intensifying) attribute of the noun for 'cough' or 'sound'.
>
> It can also be a verb 'to cough'.
>
> Best,
>
> Andi Hölzl
>
>
>
>
> Gesendet: Freitag, 11. März 2022 um 10:58 Uhr
> Von: "Raffaele Simone" <rsimone at os.uniroma3.it>
> An: "LINGTYP (lingtyp at listserv.linguistlist.org)" <
> lingtyp at listserv.linguistlist.org>
> Betreff: [Lingtyp] An ideophone for cough?
>
>
>
> Dear all,
>
> working on a paper on ideophones and their place in grammar and lexicon I
> happened to wonder how things are concerning cough.
>
> Romance languages and other which I am familiar with do not seem to have a
> standard ideophone for it and even less a stable an accepted written
> version of it.
>
> Do you know languages that have an ideophone for cough and even more a way
> of indicating it in writing?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Raffaele
>
>
>
> --
> ===============
> Emeritus Professor, Università Roma Tre
> Hon C Lund University
> Membre de l'Académie Royale de Belgique
> Chevalier de l'Ordre des Arts et des Lettres de France
> Accademico della Crusca
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> http://uniroma3.academia.edu/RaffaeleSimone
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