[Lingtyp] An ideophone for cough?
Hongmei Fang
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Sat Mar 12 10:01:14 UTC 2022
In Mandarin Chinese, there are en hèng 嗯哼，ké ké 咳咳, a hèng 啊哼.
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In Chinese the unmarked form for ‘cough’ is ké-sòu (咳嗽), both parts of which are seen as onomatopoetic.
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On 11 Mar 2022, at 10:07 PM, JOO, Ian [Student] <ian.joo at connect.polyu.hk<mailto:ian.joo at connect.polyu.hk>> wrote:
The prosaic (non-ideophonic) words for ‘cough’ indeed have iconic association to /k/ and /o/. In Johansson et al. (2020), they find that /k/ and /o/ occur frequently in hundreds of words for ‘cough’ in genealogically unrelated languages:
COUGH, LUNG, SNORE and THROAT were also associated with [+round] and
[back], but instead of /u/, the most commonly occurring cardinal sound was /o/
in all cases. In addition, COUGH was also associated with [–voice] which was
represented by the cardinal sound /k/. This seems to suggest that the common
phonetic denominator in the macro-concept PHARYNGEAL involves the back of
oral cavity and possibly also a somewhat more open mouth than the vowels of
AIRFLOW.
Johansson, N. E., Anikin, A., Carling, G., & Holmer, A. (2020). The typology of sound symbolism: Defining macro-concepts via their semantic and phonetic features. Linguistic Typology, 24(2), 253-310.
Regards,
Ian
On 11 Mar 2022, 2:59 PM +0100, Giurgea Ion <giurgeaion at yahoo.com<mailto:giurgeaion at yahoo.com>>, wrote:
Dear all,
The Indo-European reconstructed root has a similar ideophonic basis - here is the entry in H. Rix (ed.,2001) Lexikon der indogermanischen Verben:
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On Friday, March 11, 2022, 03:52:52 PM GMT+2, JOO, Ian [Student] <ian.joo at connect.polyu.hk<mailto:ian.joo at connect.polyu.hk>> wrote:
Dear Rafaelle,
here are the translations of Korean 콜록콜록 khollok-khollok that I have retrieved from the Naver Dictionaries (dict.naver.com<https://eur04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fdict.naver.com%2F&data=04%7C01%7Ch.m.fang%40uva.nl%7Cb5b848845d3e4e9a2a8908da03d38c33%7Ca0f1cacd618c4403b94576fb3d6874e5%7C0%7C0%7C637826505123425546%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C2000&sdata=GcvBdnAeDoDn7S2XRFrqcPQUpr5N0gAOyRDG0RePqgo%3D&reserved=0>).
Japanese ごほんごほん, こんこん. gohon-gohon, kon-kon
Mandarin 喀喀 ，吭吭 ，咳咳 kākā, kēngkēng, kéké
Vietnamese sù sụ, khù khụ
Mongolian пөг пөг pög-pög
Indonesian krok krok
Thai โขลก ๆ, ค๊อก ๆ, แค๊ก ๆ khlôok khlôok, khóok khóok, khéek khéek
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On 11 Mar 2022, 2:22 PM +0100, Csilla Kász, M.A. <ckasz at isfas.uni-kiel.de<mailto:ckasz at isfas.uni-kiel.de>>, wrote:
Hello,
The Hungarian counterpart of a fake cough is quite similar to the Finnish, but is usually said twice:
Köhöm-köhöm
the pronunciation is [køhøm]
Best,
Csilla
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Am 2022-03-11 14:06, schrieb Jussi Ylikoski:
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[mˈm̥m], this discussion sounds interesting! For pronunciation and translations for ahem, see https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/ahem<https://eur04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fen.wiktionary.org%2Fwiki%2Fahem&data=04%7C01%7Ch.m.fang%40uva.nl%7Cb5b848845d3e4e9a2a8908da03d38c33%7Ca0f1cacd618c4403b94576fb3d6874e5%7C0%7C0%7C637826505123425546%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C2000&sdata=7%2FQMKOFfjo2Ksbg2fD%2FI%2FdFDCHSAFS331t7Sw%2BSm4Ic%3D&reserved=0> with the interlanguage links. I just added kröhöm<https://eur04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fen.wiktionary.org%2Fwiki%2Fkr%25C3%25B6h%25C3%25B6m&data=04%7C01%7Ch.m.fang%40uva.nl%7Cb5b848845d3e4e9a2a8908da03d38c33%7Ca0f1cacd618c4403b94576fb3d6874e5%7C0%7C0%7C637826505123581668%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C2000&sdata=a58J4graJ5RmFUsf6Ba%2F6ZKQvRLWcJMR4SrWptgPjk4%3D&reserved=0> into the Finnish entry at https://fi.wiktionary.org/wiki/ahem<https://eur04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Ffi.wiktionary.org%2Fwiki%2Fahem&data=04%7C01%7Ch.m.fang%40uva.nl%7Cb5b848845d3e4e9a2a8908da03d38c33%7Ca0f1cacd618c4403b94576fb3d6874e5%7C0%7C0%7C637826505123581668%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C2000&sdata=fZmcEtcOSUTp%2FQHGammGphsvBbdojImBizFVZcVrjas%3D&reserved=0>.
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Efni: Re: [Lingtyp] An ideophone for cough?
Dear all,
Not exactly ideophones or coughing, but English has "harrumph" and "ahem" to denote a sort of fake cough intentionally produced to express disapproval and/or draw attention. (The two actually seem to differ in their status: whereas the former is kind of a regular verb, I don't think I've ever heard "ahem" pronounced — it seems to exist only in written form.)
Do other languages have similar forms?
David
On 11/03/2022 11:58, Raffaele Simone wrote:
Dear all,
working on a paper on ideophones and their place in grammar and lexicon I happened to wonder how things are concerning cough.
Romance languages and other which I am familiar with do not seem to have a standard ideophone for it and even less a stable an accepted written version of it.
Do you know languages that have an ideophone for cough and even more a way of indicating it in writing?
Thanks,
Raffaele
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Efni: Re: [Lingtyp] An ideophone for cough?
Dear all,
Not exactly ideophones or coughing, but English has "harrumph" and "ahem" to denote a sort of fake cough intentionally produced to express disapproval and/or draw attention. (The two actually seem to differ in their status: whereas the former is kind of a regular verb, I don't think I've ever heard "ahem" pronounced — it seems to exist only in written form.)
Do other languages have similar forms?
David
On 11/03/2022 11:58, Raffaele Simone wrote:
Dear all,
working on a paper on ideophones and their place in grammar and lexicon I happened to wonder how things are concerning cough.
Romance languages and other which I am familiar with do not seem to have a standard ideophone for it and even less a stable an accepted written version of it.
Do you know languages that have an ideophone for cough and even more a way of indicating it in writing?
Thanks,
Raffaele
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Hon C Lund University
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