[Lingtyp] An ideophone for cough?
Siva Kalyan
sivakalyan.princeton at gmail.com
Sun Mar 13 02:33:47 UTC 2022
I disagree with the transcription in Wiktionary; I usually hear [ʔɜ͡ʢ(ʔ)ʔɜ͡ʢm] (where [ʢ] represents a voiced epiglottal trill). Indeed, I would never write [mˈm̥m] as ahem, but rather as mm-hmm.
Also, Japanese has goho-goho and koho-koho for “real” coughing, and gohon or kohon for a fake cough intended to get someone’s attention. In both cases, the voicing is determined by how heavy the coughing is.
Tamil has lokku-lokku for a phlegmy cough; I’ve also heard garr burr for throat-clearing. I’m not sure if there is an ideophone for a dry cough.
Siva
> On 11 Mar 2022, at 11:06 pm, Jussi Ylikoski <jussi.ylikoski at oulu.fi> wrote:
>
> Dear all,
>
> [mˈm̥m], this discussion sounds interesting! For pronunciation and translations for ahem, see https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/ahem <https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/ahem> with the interlanguage links. I just added kröhöm <https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/kr%C3%B6h%C3%B6m> into the Finnish entry at https://fi.wiktionary.org/wiki/ahem <https://fi.wiktionary.org/wiki/ahem>.
>
> Best,
>
> Jussi
>
>
> Frá: Lingtyp <lingtyp-bounces at listserv.linguistlist.org <mailto:lingtyp-bounces at listserv.linguistlist.org>> fyrir hönd David Gil <gil at shh.mpg.de <mailto:gil at shh.mpg.de>>
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> Efni: Re: [Lingtyp] An ideophone for cough?
>
> Dear all,
> Not exactly ideophones or coughing, but English has "harrumph" and "ahem" to denote a sort of fake cough intentionally produced to express disapproval and/or draw attention. (The two actually seem to differ in their status: whereas the former is kind of a regular verb, I don't think I've ever heard "ahem" pronounced — it seems to exist only in written form.)
> Do other languages have similar forms?
> David
>
> On 11/03/2022 11:58, Raffaele Simone wrote:
>> Dear all,
>> working on a paper on ideophones and their place in grammar and lexicon I happened to wonder how things are concerning cough.
>> Romance languages and other which I am familiar with do not seem to have a standard ideophone for it and even less a stable an accepted written version of it.
>> Do you know languages that have an ideophone for cough and even more a way of indicating it in writing?
>> Thanks,
>> Raffaele
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> Frá: Lingtyp <lingtyp-bounces at listserv.linguistlist.org <mailto:lingtyp-bounces at listserv.linguistlist.org>> fyrir hönd David Gil <gil at shh.mpg.de <mailto:gil at shh.mpg.de>>
> Sent: föstudagur, 11. mars 2022 14:47
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> Efni: Re: [Lingtyp] An ideophone for cough?
>
> Dear all,
> Not exactly ideophones or coughing, but English has "harrumph" and "ahem" to denote a sort of fake cough intentionally produced to express disapproval and/or draw attention. (The two actually seem to differ in their status: whereas the former is kind of a regular verb, I don't think I've ever heard "ahem" pronounced — it seems to exist only in written form.)
> Do other languages have similar forms?
> David
>
> On 11/03/2022 11:58, Raffaele Simone wrote:
>> Dear all,
>> working on a paper on ideophones and their place in grammar and lexicon I happened to wonder how things are concerning cough.
>> Romance languages and other which I am familiar with do not seem to have a standard ideophone for it and even less a stable an accepted written version of it.
>> Do you know languages that have an ideophone for cough and even more a way of indicating it in writing?
>> Thanks,
>> Raffaele
>> --
>> ===============
>> Emeritus Professor, Università Roma Tre
>> Hon C Lund University
>> Membre de l'Académie Royale de Belgique
>> Chevalier de l'Ordre des Arts et des Lettres de France
>> Accademico della Crusca
>> ===============
>> Attività e pubblicazioni // Activity and publications http://uniroma3.academia.edu/RaffaeleSimone <http://uniroma3.academia.edu/RaffaeleSimone>
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