[Lingtyp] An ideophone for cough?
Jess Tauber
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Sun Mar 13 02:50:00 UTC 2022
I have data on Santali (Munda, in Northeastern India) and Nanai (a
Manchu-Tungus language with thousands of ideophones- a much larger
inventory than that for Manchu itself). I'll take a gander at these
tomorrow.
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On Sat, Mar 12, 2022 at 9:34 PM Siva Kalyan <sivakalyan.princeton at gmail.com>
wrote:
> I disagree with the transcription in Wiktionary; I usually hear
> [ʔɜ͡ʢ(ʔ)ʔɜ͡ʢm] (where [ʢ] represents a voiced epiglottal trill). Indeed, I
> would never write [mˈm̥m] as *ahem*, but rather as *mm-hmm*.
>
> Also, Japanese has *goho-goho* and *koho-koho* for “real” coughing, and
> *gohon* or *kohon* for a fake cough intended to get someone’s attention. In
> both cases, the voicing is determined by how heavy the coughing is.
>
> Tamil has *lokku-lokku* for a phlegmy cough; I’ve also heard *garr burr* for
> throat-clearing. I’m not sure if there is an ideophone for a dry cough.
>
> Siva
>
> On 11 Mar 2022, at 11:06 pm, Jussi Ylikoski <jussi.ylikoski at oulu.fi>
> wrote:
>
> Dear all,
>
> [mˈm̥m], this discussion sounds interesting! For pronunciation and
> translations for *ahem*, see https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/ahem with the
> interlanguage links. I just added *kröhöm*
> <https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/kr%C3%B6h%C3%B6m> into the Finnish entry
> at https://fi.wiktionary.org/wiki/ahem.
>
> Best,
>
> Jussi
>
>
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> David Gil <gil at shh.mpg.de>
> *Sent:* föstudagur, 11. mars 2022 14:47
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> *Efni:* Re: [Lingtyp] An ideophone for cough?
>
> Dear all,
> Not exactly ideophones or coughing, but English has "harrumph" and "ahem"
> to denote a sort of fake cough intentionally produced to express
> disapproval and/or draw attention. (The two actually seem to differ in
> their status: whereas the former is kind of a regular verb, I don't think
> I've ever heard "ahem" pronounced — it seems to exist only in written form.)
> Do other languages have similar forms?
> David
>
> On 11/03/2022 11:58, Raffaele Simone wrote:
>
> Dear all,
> working on a paper on ideophones and their place in grammar and lexicon I
> happened to wonder how things are concerning cough.
> Romance languages and other which I am familiar with do not seem to have a
> standard ideophone for it and even less a stable an accepted written
> version of it.
> Do you know languages that have an ideophone for cough and even more a way
> of indicating it in writing?
> Thanks,
> Raffaele
>
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> *Frá:* Lingtyp <lingtyp-bounces at listserv.linguistlist.org> fyrir hönd
> David Gil <gil at shh.mpg.de>
> *Sent:* föstudagur, 11. mars 2022 14:47
> *Til:* lingtyp at listserv.linguistlist.org <
> lingtyp at listserv.linguistlist.org>
> *Efni:* Re: [Lingtyp] An ideophone for cough?
>
> Dear all,
> Not exactly ideophones or coughing, but English has "harrumph" and "ahem"
> to denote a sort of fake cough intentionally produced to express
> disapproval and/or draw attention. (The two actually seem to differ in
> their status: whereas the former is kind of a regular verb, I don't think
> I've ever heard "ahem" pronounced — it seems to exist only in written form.)
> Do other languages have similar forms?
> David
>
> On 11/03/2022 11:58, Raffaele Simone wrote:
>
> Dear all,
> working on a paper on ideophones and their place in grammar and lexicon I
> happened to wonder how things are concerning cough.
> Romance languages and other which I am familiar with do not seem to have a
> standard ideophone for it and even less a stable an accepted written
> version of it.
> Do you know languages that have an ideophone for cough and even more a way
> of indicating it in writing?
> Thanks,
> Raffaele
>
> --
> ===============
> Emeritus Professor, Università Roma Tre
> Hon C Lund University
> Membre de l'Académie Royale de Belgique
> Chevalier de l'Ordre des Arts et des Lettres de France
> Accademico della Crusca
> ===============
> Attività e pubblicazioni // Activity and publications http://uniroma3.academia.edu/RaffaeleSimone
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>
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> Department of Linguistic and Cultural Evolution
> Max Planck Institute for Evolutionary Anthropology
> Deutscher Platz 6, Leipzig, 04103, Germany
>
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