[Lingtyp] A generalization about morphological and syntactic causatives

Mark Donohue mhdonohue at gmail.com
Thu Jun 8 00:29:25 UTC 2023


Add Austronesian languages, at least those in Taiwan and Sulawesi, to the
list of languages with both 'fully productive morphological causatives' +
syntactic causatives.

Examples:

Tukang Besi (Southeast Sulawesi):

No-pa-manga-‘e na ana te osimpu

3R-CAUS-eat-3P NOM child CORE young.coconut

‘She made the child eat the young coconut.’



No-karajaa-‘e kua no-manga te osimpu na ana

3R-make-3P COMP 3R-eat CORE young.coconut NOM child

‘She made the child eat the young coconut.’

Rukai (Taiwan)

o-poa-lra-iline apaa-dhe’enge

Dyn.Fin-make-1S.Nom-3S.Obl Rec:Caus-Dyn.NFin:meet

dhipolo la taotao.

Dhipolo and Taotao

‘I introduced Dhipolo to Taotao.’ (Lit: ‘I made Dhipolo and Taotao meet.’)



apaa-dhe’enge-lra-iline taotao la dhipolo.

Recip:Caus-Dyn.NFin-meet-1S.Nom-3P.Obl Taotao and Dhipolo

‘I introduced Taotao to Dhipolo.’


-Mark


(Zeitoun, Elizabeth (2007). *A Grammar of Mantauran (Rukai)*. Language and
Linguistics Monograph Series A4-2. Taipei: Institute of Linguistics,
Academia Sinica)


On Thu, 8 Jun 2023 at 06:25, Guillaume Jacques <rgyalrongskad at gmail.com>
wrote:

> Dear Juergen,
>
> Japhug (langsci-press.org/catalog/book/295) is a counterexample, it
> has a very productive causative prefix sɯ-/z- (phonologically
> conditioned allomorphs) which can be applied to loanwords from Tibetan
> and even from Chinese, and occurs on transitive verbs
> (https://paperhive.org/documents/items/Q7EaSdGqQ2jb?a=p:863), but at
> the same time there are periphrastic causative constructions, for
> instance with the verb βzu "make"
> (https://paperhive.org/documents/items/Q7EaSdGqQ2jb?a=p:1378).
>
> Guillaume
>
> Le mer. 7 juin 2023 à 20:57, Juergen Bohnemeyer <jb77 at buffalo.edu> a
> écrit :
> >
> > Dear all – It seems that languages with fully productive morphological
> causatives tend to lack syntactic (a.k.a. periphrastic/analytical)
> causatives. By ‘fully productive’, I mean crucially that the causative
> marker can be applied to already transitive (and thus semantically
> causative) bases, and therefore can be used to express indirect causation.
> Examples of languages that have fully productive morphological causatives
> in this sense and lack periphrastic causative constructions include
> Chuvash, Japanese, Hindi/Urdu, and Shawi (Cahuapanan, Peru).
> >
> >
> >
> > Two questions about the above generalization:
> >
> >
> >
> > (i)                  Are there counterexamples?
> >
> > (ii)                Are there statements of this generalization in the
> literature?
> >
> >
> >
> > Thanks! – Juergen
> >
> >
> >
> > Juergen Bohnemeyer (He/Him)
> > Professor, Department of Linguistics
> > University at Buffalo
> >
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