[Lingtyp] Truc, machin and friends

[Riccardo Giomi]

Caro Raffaele,

I can cite two papers from Tohru Seraku, written from two different
theoretical perspectives, where the author also presents or refers to data
from a variety of languages, including Ryukyuan, Ilocano, Japanese and
Mandarin:

Searku, Tohru. 2020. Placeholders in Yoron Ryukyuan: A view from Functional
Discourse Grammar. *Lingua *245.

Seraku, Tohru. 2023. Grammars for placeholders: The dynamic turn. *Glossa:
a journal of general linguistics* 8(1).

Examples from another handful of languages are found in

Hengeveld, Kees & Evelien Keizer. 2011. Non-straightforward
communication. *Journal
of Pragmatics* 43, 1962–1976.

Hope this helps, best wishes,

Riccardo

Françoise Rose <francoise.rose at univ-lyon2.fr> escreveu no dia quinta,
9/03/2023 à(s) 13:36:

> I am very sorry, I meant dear Raffaele !
>
> (this reminds me of all the times I am called Rose)
>
>
>
> *De :* Lingtyp <lingtyp-bounces at listserv.linguistlist.org> *De la part de*
> Françoise Rose
> *Envoyé :* jeudi 9 mars 2023 13:33
> *À :* Raffaele Simone <raffaele.simone at uniroma3.it>;
> LINGTYP at listserv.linguistlist.org
> *Objet :* Re: [Lingtyp] Truc, machin and friends
>
>
>
> Dear Simone,
>
> As a follow up to the 2010 volume mentioned by Timur, Brigitte Pakendorf
> and myself organized a workshop on fillers and placeholders at ALT this
> winter. They were talks on a variety of languages (I am pasting below the
> program). The type of word you are referring to is called nominal
> placeholder in the literature. Their source can be a noun, but also a
> demonstrative or interrogative pronoun,… I am joining the call for
> abstracts, which includes some references.
>
> Best,
>
> Françoise
>
>
>
>
>
> *participant*
>
> *title*
>
> *Olga Kazakevich <https://iling-ran.ru/web/en/scholars/kazakevich>*
>
> Placeholders and other fillers in Northern Selkup
>
> *Elena Klyachko <https://gisly.net/>*
>
> Placeholders versus general extenders in Tungusic languages
>
> Brigitte Pakendorf
>
> Looking for the right word: a corpus-based investigation of placeholders
> in Negidal
>
> Albert Ventayol-Boada
>
> Unravelling the distinct functions of l'ə (льэ) in Kolyma Yukaghir
>
> Dolgor Guntsetseg
>
> Placeholders in Khalkha-Mongolian
>
> Maïa Ponsonnet
>
> Placeholders in a polysynthetic language (Dalabon, Gunwinyguan,
> non-Pama-Nyungan, Australia)
>
> Yi-Yang Cheng
>
> Prosodic (in)dependence and discourse functions: On the indeterminate
> morphosyntactic analysis of clause linkers in Matu'uwal, an Austronesian
> language of Taiwan
>
> *Marianne Mithun <http://mithun.faculty.linguistics.ucsb.edu/>*
>
> Placeholders on the Move
>
> *Françoise Rose <http://www.ddl.ish-lyon.cnrs.fr/Rose>*
>
> One more thing ‘thing’ can do in Tupi-Guarani languages : ‘thing’ as a
> filler in Teko
>
> *Alexander Rice <https://sites.google.com/view/arice>*
>
> Mashti: A multipurpose filler in Northern Pastaza Kichwa
>
>
>
>
>
> *De :* Lingtyp <lingtyp-bounces at listserv.linguistlist.org> *De la part de*
> Raffaele Simone
> *Envoyé :* mercredi 8 mars 2023 19:08
> *À :* LINGTYP at listserv.linguistlist.org
> *Objet :* [Lingtyp] Truc, machin and friends
>
>
>
> Dear friends and colleagues,
>
> I am preparing a paper on that group of general-generic words that are
> used to designate entities whose name you do not know or do not remember,
> or whose name you do not want to remember or that, simply, have no name in
> a language.
>
> I’m referring to “nouns” like French "truc" and "machin", Italian "coso",
> "arnese", "aggeggio", or, for people, Italian "tizio", "tipo", Spanish
> "tío", “fulano”, English "dude" etc. They form apparently a special word
> class and implement a particular way of designating.
>
> The situation in the European languages I am familiar with seems very
> fragmented and discontinuous: some languages do have sets of dedicated or
> semidedicated words for that function, but most don’t, as far as I see.
>
> Does any of you have examples from other languages and, if any,
> bibliographic references?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Raffaele
>
>
>
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Riccardo Giomi, Ph.D.
University of Liège
Département de langues modernes : linguistique, littérature et traduction
Research group *Linguistique contrastive et typologie des langues*
F.R.S.-FNRS Postdoctoral fellow (CR - FC 43095)
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