[Lingtyp] Summary numeral in the world languages

Guillaume Jacques rgyalrongskad at gmail.com
Thu Sep 7 09:50:13 UTC 2023


Dear Pun Ho Lui

In Japhug (A grammar of Japhug | Language Science Press (langsci-press.org)
<https://langsci-press.org/catalog/book/295>), the dual ni, the plural ra
and the numerals can follow a list of nouns in the way you mention, as in
(5) p.368.

https://doi.org/10.24397/pangloss-0003508#S275
ɯ-mu ɯ-wa ni kɯ ɲɯ-z-nɤja-ndʑi qʰe
3sg.poss-mother 3sg.poss-father du erg ipfv-caus-be.a.pity-du lnk
‘Her parents could not stand to part with her.’

See also the section on bare coordination, pp.421-423.

It may be an unrelated question, but I would also like to mention the
existence of a nominal derivation which I call "social relation collective"
(described bpp 175-178) expressing a group of people (family members, or
other type of social relationships like student-teacher etc), as in *βzaŋsa*
"friend" -> *kɤndʑi-βzaŋsa* "(group of) friends" or* tɤ-rpɯ* "maternal
uncle" + *tɤ-ftsa* "sister's child" -> *kɤndʑi-rpɯ-ftsa* ‘maternal uncle
and his nephews’. These can follow personal pronouns, as in example (121)
p. 178, or in example (62) p. 385, and can also be followed by dual, plural
and numerals in the same way as a list of nouns.

https://doi.org/10.24397/pangloss-0003508#S220

tɕe iʑo kɤndʑiʁi ra ʁnɯ-pɤrme nɤ ʁnɯ-pɤrme ntsɯ ma mɤ-acʰɤt-i

LNK 1PL COLL:siblings PL two-years ADD two-years always apart.from
NEG-differ.in.age:FACT-1PL

We brother and sisters were born in intervals of two years each.' (if
ranked by birth order, adjacent siblings differ in age from each other by
two years each)


Best wishes,


Guillaume

Le mer. 6 sept. 2023 à 07:50, Pun Ho Lui <luiph001 at gmail.com> a écrit :

> Dear All,
>
> Haspelmath (2007) and Croft (2022) discussed a coordinating construction
> in which a numeral “summarizes” the number of referents in a list. There
> are different strategies in which the numeral behaves this way, e.g., a
> free numeral (1); a dual affix on a coordinand (2); a dual pronoun in
> apposition with the list+verb with dual marker (3). These numeral may be
> mono-syndetic or bi-syndatic.
>
>
> (1) Zaozou
>
> ŋu55-mu55 na53 phiɛ33
>
> 1-PL[EXCL] two father_and_child
>
> “we two (exclusive), my daughter and I.”  (Li, 2020)
>
> (2) Kham
>
> syar sono:h pusum-ni
>
> louse and flea-DL
>
> ‘the louse and the flea’ (Watters, 2004)
>
>
> (3)  Mapudungu
> (iñché) eymi    inchiu   i-y-u
>
>  I          you:SG we:DU eat-IND-1NONSG-DU
>
>   ‘You and I ate.’
>
> Languages with this construction I know are Zaozou, Kham, Mapudungu, Alto
> Perené*, *Bangla*, *Cantonese*, *Mandarin*, *Papuan Malay*, *Yakut*, *
>
> Inari Saami, Mongolian, Classical Tibetan, Huallaga Quechua, Wardaman,
> Khanty, Vedic Sanskrit, Mparntwe Arrernte, Daga, Mapudungu, Enets, Kham
> and Hualapai
>
> I am wondering if there are other languages sharing similar constructions.
>
> Thank you.
>
> Warmest,
> Joe Pun Ho Lui
>
>
>
>
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