[Lingtyp] Evaluative morphology expressing "authenticity/prototypicality"

Fri Jul 12 00:38:31 UTC 2024

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Jila Ghomeshi, Ray Jackendoff, Nicole Rosen and Kevin Russell. 2004. Natural
Language & Linguistic Theory 22 (2): 307-357.

On Fri, 12 Jul 2024 at 09:48, Pin Wang via Lingtyp <
lingtyp at listserv.linguistlist.org> wrote:

> Hi Randy,
>
> I’d like to add an example: When chairing your talk at our 2018 language
> typology forum (University of Sydney), Prof Christian Matthiessen
> introduced you as a ‘linguist linguist’ ;-)
>
> Pin
>
>
> On 12 Jul 2024, at 2:26 am, Randy J. LaPolla via Lingtyp <
> lingtyp at listserv.linguistlist.org> wrote:
>
> Hi again Mira,
> A more exact natural example of what you are talking about was used by
> Larry Horn teaching Pragmatics many years ago: At an LSA conference someone
> got ill, so one person got up on stage and asked the attendees “Is there a
> doctor in the house?” and half the audience raised their hands. The person
> then said, “No, a *doctor* doctor!”
>
> Randy
>
> On 10 Jul 2024, at 8:55 PM, Mira Ariel <mariel at tauex.tau.ac.il> wrote:
>
> Dear Nigel,
>
> Yes, this is the trajectory Bardenstein and Ariel talk about. Better think
> of “a cookie cookie”. That can have both prototypical and intensified
> meanings.
> Mira
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On 10 Jul 2024, at 15:40, Nigel Vincent via Lingtyp <
> lingtyp at listserv.linguistlist.org> wrote:
>
> 
> Interesting - I'd have interpreted that ad to mean not 'central/prototype'
> but something more evaluative: 'the best you can get' or words to that
> effect. The picture doesn't look like what I would consider a prototype
> cookie (or biscuit, as I would say!).
> Nigel
>
>
> Professor Nigel Vincent, FBA MAE
> Professor Emeritus of General & Romance Linguistics
> The University of Manchester
>
> Linguistics & English Language
> School of Arts, Languages and Cultures
> The University of Manchester
>
>
>
>
> https://www.research.manchester.ac.uk/portal/en/researchers/nigel-vincent(f973a991-8ece-453e-abc5-3ca198c869dc).html
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> *From:* Lingtyp <lingtyp-bounces at listserv.linguistlist.org> on behalf of
> Randy LaPolla via Lingtyp <lingtyp at listserv.linguistlist.org>
> *Sent:* 10 July 2024 2:23 PM
> *To:* <LINGTYP at listserv.linguistlist.org> <
> LINGTYP at listserv.linguistlist.org>
> *Subject:* Re: [Lingtyp] Evaluative morphology expressing
> "authenticity/prototypicality"
>
> Mira’s message reminded me of an English example where repetition narrows
> the term to central/prototype inferences:
>
> <image.png>
>
> In case the image doesn’t come out, it is the tag line on Pepperidge
> Farms’ Captiva cookie:
> “If you’re going to have a cookie, have a *cookie*”
>
> Randy
>
> On Jul 10, 2024, at 15:42, Mira Ariel via Lingtyp <
> lingtyp at listserv.linguistlist.org> wrote:
>
> 
> Dear Francesca and others,
>
> I'm curious to know if these prototypicalization morphemes sometimes
> evolve an intensifying function later.
>
> Bardenstein and I have a paper  in *Studies in* *Language  *46:2 (2022),
> where we trace the evolution of a number of intensifiers. Lo and behold,
> they evolve from expressions which narrow the application of the term to
> its central/prototpycal instances. Later on this narrower may evolve an
> intensifying function. We only discuss independent modifiers, but
> reduplication, even morphological one, can indicate intensification:
>
> Hebrew:
>
> *Yafe yafe *
> Beautiful beautiful
> 'Central concept of beautiful (not 'more or less beautiful')'/'Very
> beautiful'
>
> *Yefe.fe *(lexical reduplication)
> 'Very beautiful'
>
> Best,
> Mira (Ariel)
> ------------------------------
> *From:* Lingtyp <lingtyp-bounces at listserv.linguistlist.org> on behalf of
> Riccardo Giomi via Lingtyp <lingtyp at listserv.linguistlist.org>
> *Sent:* Tuesday, July 9, 2024 9:07 PM
> *To:* lingtyp at listserv.linguistlist.org <lingtyp at listserv.linguistlist.org
> >
> *Subject:* Re: [Lingtyp] Evaluative morphology expressing
> "authenticity/prototypicality"
>
> Dear Francesca (and all),
>
> Leti (Austronesian) has an "exactness" marker -- which again, actually
> appears to be a clitic, but anyway:
>
>
>    1. a. *N-tivl=**e**.* b. *N-tivla.*
>
> 3.SG-flap=*EXCT *3.SG-flap
> ‘It flaps.’ ‘It sort of flaps.’
> (2) a. *vuar=lalavn=**e* b. *vuar=lalavn*
> big=mountain=*EXCT* big=mountain
> ‘a big mountain’ ‘a sort of a big mountain’
>
> van Engelenhoven, Aone, 2004. *Leti, a Language of Southwest Maluku *(Verhandelingen
> van het Koninklijk Instituut voor Taal-, Land- en Volkenkunde 211). KITLV
> Press, Leiden.
>
> Best wishes,
> Riccardo
>
> Riccardo Giomi
> Assistant Professor of Functional Linguistics
> University of Amsterdam
> Faculty of Humanities: Department of Linguistics
> Spuistraat 134, 1012 VB, Amsterdam, The Netherlands
> ------------------------------
> *From:* Lingtyp <lingtyp-bounces at listserv.linguistlist.org> on behalf of
> Christian Lehmann via Lingtyp <lingtyp at listserv.linguistlist.org>
> *Sent:* 09 July 2024 19:44
> *To:* lingtyp at listserv.linguistlist.org <lingtyp at listserv.linguistlist.org
> >
> *Subject:* Re: [Lingtyp] Evaluative morphology expressing
> "authenticity/prototypicality"
>
> Dear Francesca,
>
> Cabecar (Chibchan) has a a formative *sí̱* with a twofold distribution:
>
> a) As a derivational suffix on nouns, it means 'authentic', 'prototypical':
>
>    1.
>
>    a. chíchi-sí̱
>
> dog-auth
>
>             ‘authentic dog’
>
> b. ju-sí̱
>
> house-auth
>
>             ‘authentic/real/legitimate house (i.e. traditional Cabecar
> house)’
> b) As an enclitic on adjectives, it means 'comparatively':
>
>    1.
>
>    a. báá=sí̱
>
> nice=cmpr
>
>             ‘comparatively/truly nice’
>
> b. daláá=sí̱
>
> yellow=cmpr
>
>             ‘genuinely yellow’
>
> It fulfills this latter function in comparative constructions, too.
>
> Best, Christian
> --
>
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