[Lingtyp] Discourse functions of possessive markers

Timur Maisak timur.maisak at gmail.com
Sat Jul 20 08:47:35 UTC 2024


Dear Zahra,
here's a potentially relevant example from another area (namely the
Caucasus):

Nichols 2011 <https://escholarship.org/uc/item/3nn7z6w5>: 280-282 describes
the use of 2nd person dative pronouns and reflexive 2nd person *genitive*
pronouns in "2nd person mirative" contexts ("The speaker announces
something important that is of interest to the hearer, usually something
new or unexpected to the hearer, and known to others besides the speaker
(or at least not something the speaker has just now realized).")
The reflexive 2nd person *genitive* pronouns are mainly used in
imperatives, they "have a hortative flavor and do not announce (or command
or request) something new to the hearer so much as recognize or appeal to
the hearer's viewpoint", as in:

Suoga    juolal                      *hwaai*.
1s.all     J.go.IMPVmild        2sRFL/MIR
Why don't you marry me! (or: Why then let's get married!)

(Here, *hwaai* is the genitive form. See the source for additional
examples.)

Very best,
Timur Maisak


вт, 16 июл. 2024 г. в 15:53, Zahra Etebari Shekarsaraei via Lingtyp <
lingtyp at listserv.linguistlist.org>:

> Dear all,
>
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> I am preparing a dataset for development of discourse functions in
> possessive/personal markers cross-linguistically. I am particularly
> interested in constructions (relevant examples below) where a
> possessive/personal marker is used not to convey possession or refer to
> another item, but to denote functions such as definiteness, topicality,
> emphasis or contrast.
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> *Definiteness*
>
>    1. Kútip turǵan *adamı* kelmedi.
>                                       [Karakalpak]
>
> *The person* he/she has been waiting for did not come.
>
> (Utepovich 2023: 80)
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> *Contrast*
>
>    2. Ulizy-vylizy                kyk
>    bratjos,           *pokći-ez*                                  [Udmurt]
>
>              lived-were.3SG        two
> brothers         *younger.brother-3SG*
>
>              kuaner,                      *byȝym-ez*
>                          uzyr.
>
>              Poor                           *older.brother-3SG*
> rich
>
>              There lived two brothers, the younger one was poor, the older
> one was rich.
>
>              (Serebrennikov 1963: 133)
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>
> So far, I have collected cases from over 60 language varieties spanning Uralic
> (Ugric, Permic, Mari, Mordvin, Samoyed), Altaic (Turkic, Tungusic,
> Mongolic), Indo-European (Iranic), Afro-Asiatic (Semitic), and Austronesian
> (Javanese, Malay) families. If you have encountered similar uses in a
> language you work on or if you are aware of any lesser-known source on
> this topic, especially non-English sources, I would be extremely grateful
> if you could share them with me.
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> Many thanks for your time!
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> Best wishes,
>
> Zahra
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> References:
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> Serebrennikov, Boris A. 1963. *Istoriceskaja Morfologija Permskix Jazykov*
> [Historical morphology of the Permic languages]. Moscow: Izdateľstvo AN
> SSSR.
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>
> Utepovich, Bekbergenov H. 2023. Semantic peculiarities of the possessive
> affixes in the Karakalpak language and their equivalents in English. *Journal
> of Advanced Linguistic Studies*. 10(2). 64-82.
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> Zahra Etebari
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> Postdoctoral researcher
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> Department of Linguistics and Philology
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> Uppsala University
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> 75126 Uppsala, Sweden
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