[Lingtyp] 'If you say/ask why' > because

[Paolo Ramat]

The same holds for Ital. , too:  And without the Span. graphic distinction
between the interrogative* perché? *and the causative* perché*

*¿Por qué la gallina cruzó la carretera? Porque quería llegar al otrolado.*
'for what the chicken crossed the road? because[forwhat] wanted get
to:the other side':
*Perché la gallina traversò la strada? Perché voleva arrivare dall'altra
parte*

Best,
Paolo

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Il giorno lun 11 nov 2024 alle ore 13:48 Alexander Coupe via Lingtyp <
lingtyp at listserv.linguistlist.org> ha scritto:

> Dear Jeremy,
>
> Anju Saxena's 1988 BLS paper discusses grammaticalizations involving 'say'
> in various TB languages of South Asia, some of which have causal meanings -
> see attached.
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> Best,
> Alec
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> On 9/11/24, 11:17 PM, "Lingtyp on behalf of Jeremy Bradley via Lingtyp" <
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> Dear all,
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> I am looking at the conventionalization, eventually grammaticalization
> of phrases meaning something along the lines of 'if you say/ask why' as
> causal conjunctions 'because', in the languages of the world. I'm
> currently aware of this happening (with some variation in the exact
> structuring) in:
>
>
> Mari (Uralic)
> Udmurt (Uralic)
> Chuvash (Turkic)
> Buryat (Mongolic)
> Lezgian (Northeast Caucasian)
> Tamil (Dravidian)
> Middle Indo-Aryan (IE)
> Japanese
> Korean
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> ... which all have in common that they're SOV languages; it strikes me
> as plausible that this is a pattern that easily arises when an SOV
> language "needs" a mechanism for a postposed causal clause. But two
> things I'm curious about:
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> 1) Does anybody know of other languages that do this, esp.
> non-SOV-languages?
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> 2) Does anybody know about any systematic research on this process?
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> Best,
> Jeremy
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