[Lingtyp] COME-passives

Christian Lehmann christian.lehmann at uni-erfurt.de
Tue Feb 25 13:50:07 UTC 2025


I feel that, for the sake of those who are even less versed in Italian 
than I am, someone should mention that the Italian passive with /venire/ 
is one member of a paradigm with /andare/ as the other member, thus 
formally the well-known ventive-itive contrast. Functionally, however, 
things are much more complicated; apparently no deixis is involved.

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Am 23.02.2025 um 13:41 schrieb Sergey Loesov via Lingtyp:
>
> *Dear colleagues,*
>
> Are you aware of *COME-passives* in any of the world’s languages? In 
> Kurmanji, a North-West Iranian language, the passive voice is formed 
> using the verb /hatin/ (‘to come’), which is fully conjugated for all 
> TAM forms, followed by the infinitive. This construction appears to be 
> *diachronically young*, because Kurmanji has a split ergative 
> alignment. Its preterit base (from which the infinitive seems to be 
> formed secondarily) is a reflex of the /PIU resultative participle in 
> -ta/, and the choice between the ergative and the absolutive depends 
> entirely on the inherent transitivity of the verb.
>
> Thank you very much,
>
> Sergey
>
>
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