LL-L "Etymology" 2006.03.23 (05) [E/LS]

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23 March 2006 * Volume 05
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From: Utz H. Woltmann <uwoltmann at gmx.de>
Subject: LL-L "Etymology" 2006.03.23 (03) [A/D/E/LS]

Jonny schreev:

> Jüst sou mit LINDOW: door schall (no Kaempfert) binnen stohn  LS:
> _Bolz_, un' dat schall heyten G: 'Kater', E: 'tomcat'.
> Is Dii dat Woord jichenswo mol tomoyt komen?? Hier kennt dat heyl keyn
> Deubel.

Beste Jonny,

kiek maal bi Wikipedia in: "Een Kater (oder Koter) is dat sülve as 'n
Bolzen un de "Mann" van de Katten."
http://nds.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kater

Bi Harte steiht denn ook: "Kater, m. Kater, pl. -s; Bolz/Bulz, m., pl.
-en; von den Kööm heff ik en bannigen Kater..."

Vörtieden gääv dat maal so en Snabuleerkööm, de heet "Bols: Swatten
Kater". Mag ween, dat dat daar wat mit to doon hett?

Hol Di  fuchdig
Utz H. Woltmann

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From: Roger Hondshoven <roger.hondshoven at pandora.be>
Subject: LL-L "Etymology" 2006.03.23 (03) [A/D/E/LS]

>> Hi, Jonny,
>
> You wrote in connection with 'geeuwhonger':>
>>>
> "Door seggt wii in uns LS _hungerfreetsch_ (adj./adv.) tou."
>
> What does 'freetsch" stand for?

Regards,

Roger Hondshoven

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From: Roger Hondshoven <roger.hondshoven at pandora.be>
Subject: LL-L "Etymology" 2006.03.23 (03) [A/D/E/LS]

>> From: Jacqueline Bungenberg de Jong <Dutchmatters at comcast.net>
> Subject: LL-L "Etymology" 2006.03.23 (01) [A/D/E/LS/German]
>
> Roger says: <However, we do have in my dialect a compound noun /geihunger/
> ,
> Dutch 'geeuwhonger', which is supposed to be derived from '*gahonger'. The
> first component  /gei/ is non other than the uimlaut result of Middle
> Dutch
> 'gâ' "gauw".Cpr. German 'jäh' "suddenly" , Old High German 'gâhi'
> "quick".>
> Roger, you've got me there. I always thought that "geeuw" in "geeuwhonger"
> came from "geeuwen = gapen = E. Yawn".
> Somehow that seemed more reasonable. ( het beeld van het nest vol jonge
> vogels met hun snavels open! ) But thanks anyhow. Jacqueline
>
The connection with 'geeuwen' is far from implausible, as geeuwhonger often
goes together with involuntary gaping mouth motions. As a matter of fact,
Van Dale defines 'geeuwhonger' as "plotselinge honger, flauwte waarbij de
lijder herhaaldelijk de mond krampachtig wijd opent en met geweld sluit,
schijnbaar als uiting van honger".
Roger 

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