LL-L 'Funny foreign' 2007.01.19 (01) [E/LS]

Fri Jan 19 22:10:51 UTC 2007

L O W L A N D S - L - 19 January 2007 - Volume 01

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From: Luc Hellinckx <luc.hellinckx at gmail.com>
Subject:

* Beste Ron,

You wrote:
*

*In my experience, many British people find certain "German" names and signs
funny, and some get the giggles like primary school kids everytime they see
the sign Ausfahrt ((freeway) exit).
*

*In Dutch, "uitvaart" means "funeral" (E), but I guess their sense of humor
is not thàt morbid, and maybe more of a scatological nature in this case.

Kind greetings,

Luc Hellinckx*

For some reason, it may not have reached you I'm afraid, 'cause I haven't
seen it on the list yet...did I use the wrong address?

Kind greetings,

Luc Hellinckx

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From: Heiko Evermann <heiko.evermann at gmx.de>
Subject: LL-L 'Etymology' 2007.01.16 (05) [E]

> > In my experience, many British people find certain "German" names and
> > signs funny, and some get the giggles like primary school kids
> > everytime they see the sign Ausfahrt ((freeway) exit).
I know, explaining jokes is not funny, but I really did not understand the
joke. So what is funny about Ausfahrt, if you only know English and no
German?

By the way: when I was at school we had a class tour to London and guess
what
we found: the "Harrow gift shop" (German "gift" = "poison").

Greetings from Hamburg,

Heiko

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From: Karl-Heinz Lorenz <Karl-Heinz.Lorenz at gmx.net>
Subject: LL-L 'Funny foreign' 2007.01.18 (01) [E]

Arthur Jones about High-German:

> ...that Pannonian Mutation of Visigothic/Langobardic/Alemannic ...

could be, I'm not sure ... but let's investigate ssiss:

> What would be the official
> Berlin/Munich term? Aussendeich am Buetzerkanal?

The mainstream Bavarian or Austrian expert would tell you something like:
Bitzelbacherlsaussendeich. But you're pretty much closer to what I think is
right: "Aussendeich von Bützelbach" or "Deich außerhalb von Bützelbach" or
"Aussendeich (Bitzelbach)"

It's the same with Jonny's "Donaudampfschifffahrtskapitänspatent":

One of sseese "Wortungetümer", but I would say: "Das Patent für Käpitäne der
Dampfschifffahrt auf der Donau".

And the same goes for: "Donaudampfschifffahrtsgesellschaftskapitän". I would
say: "Der/Ein Kapitän der Gesellschaft der Dampfschifffahrt auf der Donau"

But in fact the expression: "Donaudampfschifffahrtsgesellschaft" and its
abbreviation "DDSG" exists:

http://www.ddsg-blue-danube.at/

So a good choices is "Kapitänspatent der DDSG".

(attention, I'm fooling around a bit from now on)

It becomes even clearer if you put it into:

Austrian-Dialect: "Des Patent vo an Kapitän vo deara Gsöhschoft de wos de
Schiff de Donau aufe und owe foan laußt."

("poor") Austrian-German: "Das Patent vom Kapitän von der Gesellschaft die
was die Schiffe die Donau auf und ab fahren lässt."

(End of fooling around)

Generally Mr.and Mrs Average /Herr und Frau Efferitsch in Pannonian Austria
and also in the other German speaking countries rather use sentences or
abbreviations than these long word constructions at least in everyday
speech.

Is ssiss maybe a lowlands and ingvaeonic feature in German and espescially
in sse Pannonian-Austrian German? Or is it simply more practical to use
short sentences or abbreviations instead of long compound words?

Regards
Karl-Heinz

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From: A Victorie <victorie.a at home.nl>
Subject: LL-L 'Funny foreign' 2007.01.18 (03) [E]

Moi leeglanders,

Bij oons in Drenthe bint ok grappige plaatsnamen,

Wij hebt (Amen, Spijkerboor, Nooitgedacht, Witten, Geelbroek,)

En in Gröning lig 't plekkie: (Doodstil….)

Arend Victorie
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From: "list at marcusbuck.org" <list at marcusbuck.org>
Subject: LL-L 'Funny foreign' 2007.01.18 (03) [E]

From: jonny <jonny.meibohm at arcor.de>
> Subject: LL-L 'Funny foreign' 2007.01.18 (01) [E]
>
> Beste Arthur,
>
> > _Butzfletherbutendiek_
>
> Again- there is no word like this! In LS we don't like to put words
together
> like in Standard German: *Donaudampfschiffahrtskapit瓣nspatent...* ;-)! If
> anyone of the community authorities wrote it this way, as a name of a
street
> or so, he was wrong. One even couldn't make a construction like this in
> Standard German, and the new 'Rechtschreib-Reform' tries to muck out the
> whole German language regarding these monster-words.
>
> The German, official name is and always has been 'B羹tzflether
Aussendeich',
> and you find more, for example 'B羹tzflether Binnendeich' or 'B羹tzflether
> Moor'. I have seen 'B羹tzflethermoor' written in one word, but that's wrong
> again and very poor German, often invented by people with bad language
> education.
> (Just last year it happened that a 20,000-Euro-plate on the autobahn from
> Bremen to Cuxhaven showed the wrong 'Cuxha*f*en. It had to be removed and
as
> far as I know to be destroyed...)
> The Name 'B羹tzfleth' one shouldn't try to translate into Stand. G.,
because
> it became an official unit during the centuries. BTW: _Fleth_ is adapted
by
> Stand. G., too; the DUDEN says:
>
> quote:
> "Fleet, das; -[e]s, -e (Kanal in K羹stenst瓣dten, bes. in Hamburg)"
> unquote

That's not quite true. To connect Xer Moor to Xermoor is relatively common.
Actually most names of that form are connected. Bzflethermoor is the
official
form, as far as I know. Look at Google Maps, it has all of the many moors in
Kehdingen and around written in one word. And the Google count also votes
for
one word.

But speaking of funny names: I personally have to grin ever when I hear the
name
of Westfalian poet Augustin Wibbelt. It can be read as "Augustin is
seesawing"
or "Augustin is hopping" (hope these english words match the meaning
somewhat)
but can also mean (but I think this use is somewhat limited and not that
widespread) a form of female masturbation.

Gr飆en
Marcus Buck
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