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L O W L A N D S - L - 13 January 2008 - Volume 04
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From: heatherrendall at tiscali.co.uk <heatherrendall at tiscali.co.uk>
Subject: LL-L "Lexicon" 2008.01.13 (02) [E]
Ingmar wrote: "but when North Brabanders are (trying)
speaking Standard Dutch, they usually say "langs": "ik zit langs jou"
Do you think this might be where the nautical expression ' to lie alongside
/ another boat or the harbour wall' i.e. next to it comes from?
Lots of English nautical terms come from Dutch / North Sea coastline
Heather
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From: Mark Dreyer <mrdreyer at lantic.net>
Subject: LL-L "Lexicon" 2008.01.13 (02) [E] Dear Ingmar, Ron & All:
Subject: L-Lowlands: Lexicon.
It seems to me that if this is so the Afrikaans usage is nearer to Brabants
then, than AB Nederlands.
We say 'langs' as in "Thomas sit langs Marie." = "Thomas sits beside Marie."
On the other hand, "Afrikaans is naaste aan Nederlands." = "Afrikaans is
closest to Netherlands."
And "Jou welsyn is my belang." = "Your welfare is my concern."
And we also have "...die huis neffens die kraal." = "...the house alongside
the corral."
"Low Saxon *blangen*, *blangs*, etc., means "alongside" from *bi
lang-s/en*("by long-..."). However, in most northern dialects it has
come to be used
in the sense of "next to" as well, where other dialects would use
*neven*(cf. German
*neben*), probably via the meaning "by the side of ..." (Say, trees that
stand alongside a road stand next to the road.)"
Hey, that's the same as the North Brabant use of "langs" instead of
Standard Dutch "naast". The funny thing is that the Brabant dialect word
is something like "neffen", but when North Brabanders are (trying)
speaking Standard Dutch, they usually say "langs": "ik zit langs jou" I'm
sitting next to you, instead of Standard Dutch "ik zit naast jou" and
Brabant dialect "ik zit neffen ou". Unlike German with "neben", Dutch
doesn't have an equivalent of "neffen" anymore, other than in compound
words like "nevenfunctie". "Langs" in Standard Dutch means alongside,
e.g. "de bomen staan langs de weg" the trees stand alongside de road.
Yrs,
Mark
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