LL-L "Language history" 2010.07.16 (01) [EN]

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From: Jacqueline Bungenberg de Jong <Dutchmatters at comcast.net>

Subject: LL-L "Language history" 2010.07.15 (05) [EN]



Luc, thank you for making this article available. It is the answer to some
questions and – Ah joy! – the source of many new questions. Jacqueline



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From: Paul Finlow-Bates <wolf_thunder51 at yahoo.co.uk>

Subject: LL-L "Language history" 2010.07.15 (02) [EN-NL]



My guess would be the pre-Indo European language that forms a substrate to
much Germanic language - the speech that Claiborne calls "Folkish". He
picked that name because "folk" and its equivalents is a good example of a
Germanic but non-IE word. The IE word would be expected to be related to
e.g. Latin *genus* - and indeed we do see such a word, in English "kin" for
example. Germanic seems to have a large amount of such duplicates.



As much as half of the basic Germanic vocabulary might be from these pre-IE
people who the proto-Germanic speakers met - though oddly what we know of
Gothic is over 85% IE. That could be just dumb luck - we don't have a huge
sample of Gothic after all. But maybe the ancestral Gothic speakers didn't
have as much to do with the "natives"?



Paul



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From: R. F. Hahn <sassisch at yahoo.com>

Subject: Language history

Paul wrote above:



My guess would be the pre-Indo European language that forms a substrate to
much Germanic language



And to the Celtic, Slavic and many Romance languages as well, I’d say, if
not to *all* European languages of primarily Indo-European descent.

Perhaps these substrate languages were related to (poorly) known
non-Indo-European languages of the Iberian Peninsula, such as Iberian,
Tartessian and Aquitanian (the latter of which is the ancestor of modern
Basque).

Regards,
Reinhard/Ron
Seattle, USA



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