LL-L "Phonology" 2011.09.09 (01) [DE-EN-NDS]

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From: Mike Morgan mwmbombay at gmail.com
 Subject: LL-L "Phonology" 2011.09.07 (02) [EN]

And, of course, such liquid metathesis (actually pleonam is a more accurate
ter perhaps, since it may in fact NOT be simply an inversion of adjacent
sounds, which is what metathesis is)   -- C(v)L(v)C and C(v)R(v)C variations
--   is something very fmilar to any 1st year Slavic linguistics grad
student.

Not that it is unknown in other parts of the world, nor even in other groups
within IndoEuropean, but it seems "natural" to assume some interaction
within a NE European (NE Indo-Euorpean) sub-grouping with respect to this
process (whether we want to see  influence or not, or direction of influence
is anotehr question altogether ... though as an ex-Slavicist, my vote goes
with the Slavs ;-))

For example: English milk, Dutch melk, which may be heard also as melek, is
in Slavic variously:
mVlVko :  (Russian & Ukrianian) молоко /moloko/ Russian: [malako],
(Belarusan) малако /malako/,

mlVko  ::   (Polish) mleko,  (Czech) mléko, (Bulgarian) мляко /ml,ako/,
(ekavian Serbian & Macedonian) млеко (mleko), (Slovene) mleko,

mlVVko  :: (Slovak) mlieko,

mlVyVko  ::  (ijekavian Coratian) mlijeko

Picking just a few representatives among the possibilities, we have a
"continuum":

English   Dutch colloquial+Russian     Slovene
mVlk             mVlVk                          mlVk

what we don't see is mlk, with NO vowels....

... but if we chose a different example (wolf for example) we would see that
as well (e.g. Slovak vlk ... and also Bulgarain вълк /v at lk/ where the ъ /@/
schwa is arguably not a phoneme but added just to "facilitate
pronunciation". Also in Serbian вук /vuk/ we have NO LIQUID... but this may
rather be seen as the result of a process whereby the labial "flavouring" of
the в /v/ was acquired by the syllabic liquid... which then developed
further as a syllabic labial... then finally into a labial vowel ...

mwm

PS any instances of inverted letters in the above is due, NOT to metathesis,
but rather to my poor typing ;-)
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From: R. F. Hahn <sassisch at yahoo.com>
Subject: Phonology

Mark:

mlVko  ::   (Polish) mleko,  (Czech) mléko, (Bulgarian) мляко /ml,ako/,
(ekavian Serbian & Macedonian) млеко (mleko), (Slovene) mleko,

Both Sorbian (Lusatian) languages (which have first syllable stress) have *
mloko*.

Regards,
Reinhard/Ron
Seattle, USA

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From: Hannelore Hinz <hannehinz at t-online.de> <hannehinz at t-online.de>
Subject: LL-L "Phonologie" 2011.09.08 (04) [EN]

Un nu sadel (sattel) ick mien Pierd...

*Pierd*, a. Spr. Perd, Pl. Pierd', Schreibung auch Pir, als Aussprache für
Rostock  1874 Pied oder Pia(e)d  (beides beinahe zwei mit kurz abgestoßener
Endsylbe), Pl. Pia(e) (ebenso) an, die Bauernsprache verschlucke auch das
a(e) bei folgendem Vokal: Vara(e)! Hej ji de Piall börnt? Pferd: 'ein
Perdt', Pird, Peer, Peerd, de Peer; 'an perden, an koyen, an  anderme queke'
(1344);'syn lutteke pert' (1370); kleyne  perde'; 'dat scymelinghe perd
(Schimmel) her Luders' (1373); 'teyn mark  Lubescher penninge vor brůn perd'
(1381); de ( wer ins Amt
der Knochenhauer aufgenommen wird) schall holden dem rade unde der stad een
pert alse 12 lub. mare' (1417); denn staht uns' Peer (Pl.) up Stenen; 'eyn
klen fal perdeken' (1559), Pierdken, Pierten, Pierd, Pierding 1607.
Lit.: Wossidlo/Teuchert

*Pferd: *Der Name des Reit- und Zugtieres führt über verschiedene
Zwischenformen  (mhd.
pfert, pfärt, pfärit, pfärvrit, ahd. pfärfrit, pfarifrit) auf mlat.
para-veredus "Kurierpferd (auf
Nebenlinien)" zurück, eine Bildung mit dem griech. Präfix para "neben, bei,
neben - hin" (para..., Para...) zu spätlat. veredus ""Postpferd" (gall.
Ursprungs). Das fremde Wort hat sich gegenüber den einheimischen
Bezeichnungen des Tieres (Roß und Gaul) in der Schriftsprache weitgehend
durchgesetzt. 'Roß' gilt vorwiegend in gehobener dichterischer Sprache sowie
- mit dem Plural Rösser - im Südd., Österr. und Schweiz., während 'Gaul'
noch landschaftlich und sonst meist im abwertenden Sinne gebräuchlich ist.
Lit.:  DUDEN 7 Herkunftswörterbuch

Prrr...

Hartlich Gräuten.

Hanne

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