LL-L "Phonology" 2012.02.16 (05) [EN]
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From: Michael Everson everson at evertype.com
Subject: LL-L "Phonology" 2012.02.16 (04) [EN]
> From: Ingmar Roerdinkholder <roerd096 at PLANET.NL>
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> Nice, Michael (btw: EVERtype as in EVERson?),
Of course.
> I have a question: how is "au" pronounced in Plautdietsch, is it a
diphthong like German and Dutch au, and English ou/ow, or is it more like
an open "o" like sound, as English aw/au, or something else?
I have assumed it is [ɔː] or similar.
Michael Everson * http://www.evertype.com/
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From: R. F. Hahn <sassisch at yahoo.com>
Subject: Phonology
Hi, Ingmar!
You asked about the phonetic equivalent of "au" in Mennonite Low Saxon (*
Plautdietsch*) (equivalent of Central Low Saxon short /a/ [a] and Dutch
short /a/ [ɑ]).
Personally I hear it as [ɑʊ] most of the time (as opposed to "German-style"
[aʊ]).
But why not listen to it yourself?
Jack Driedger:
http://lowlands-l.net/anniversary/khortitza.php
Reuben Epp (our dear late Lowlands-L member):
http://lowlands-l.net/anniversary/molochna.php
Another clip:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9A37iqbo1BE
Please bear in mind that k > kj is older than "Russian" ("Soviet") k > kj >
tj. This goes hand in hand with the shift u > ü. In other words, Mennonites
whose ancestors left "Russia" earlier use kj and u, while those that left
"Russia" more recently use tj and ü.
Here is a non-Mennonite Low Saxon dialect of the Midwest USA:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sMiElxOaHIo
Regards,
Reinhard/Ron
Seattle, USA
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