LL-L "Phonology" 2013.01.30(03) [EN]

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 L O W L A N D S - L - 30 January 2013 - Volume 03
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From: Jacqueline Bungenberg de Jong <Dutchmatters at comcast.net>
Subject: LL-L "Phonology?" 2013.01.29 (02) [EN]

> From: R. F. Hahn <sassisch at yahoo.com>****

Subject: Phonology****

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Hi and thanks, Jacqueline!****

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It's always great to hear and learn from you.****

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I wrote:****



 s "g" somewhat softly ([ɣ̊]), though not quite as softly ([ɣ]) as most
> Belgians do, while many northern Netherlanders I listen to make no
> distinction between "g" and "ch" ([x̠] ~ [χ]).

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What I was implying was that to my ears the Queen's pronunciation of /g/ is
> somewhat devoiced ([ɣ̊]) and lies somewhere between "ch" (/x/) and Belgian
> "soft" (i.e. voiced) /g/ ([ɣ]). ****

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I would like to suggest that this is almost analogous to the Dutch
> distinction between "w" ([ʋ]), "v" ([v̥]) and "f" ([f]), and apparently in
> some dialects also between "z" ([z]), "z" ([z̥]) and "s" ([s]).****

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This hypothesis is based on the assumption that there are degrees of
> voicelessness.****

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 PS. Where did you score the phonetic script. I could use one

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There are many ways of accessing such symbols. My favorite online
> pick-copy-and-paste tool is Richard Ishida's series of Unicode character
> pickers:****

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 http://rishida.net/scripts/pickers/

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Click on "IPA" on the right to access the International Phonetic Alphabet.
> The neat thing is that the sound is described when you place your cursor on
> a symbol.****

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Groetjes,

 Reinhard/Ron

Seattle, USA

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Thank you very much!!****

Jacqueline ****




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