[Lowlands-l] Is the list alive? Here is a linguist question!

[Lowlands Languages & Cultures]

Wow, thanks a lot, this is really the bird's-eye-view that I loved to 
get from this list in the olden days!

So you say, "IE roots in *p- do not normally give German words in in *p 
(rather, like Pfad, they give words in *pf-)". I had imagined that Pfad 
was Padd before (like in Low Saxon), migrated into English as path. Only 
later, so I thought, the Low Saxon word mutated into Pfad by way of the 
second germanic consonant shift (p --> pf etc.), meaning that the IE 
p-word was a Low Saxon p-word before turning a German pf-word. Was I 
mistaken there...? Die the IE p-word go through some other pf-state 
before emerging as Padd? (This path is obviously plastered with puns! :-))

Hartlich Gröten vun Hamborg!

Marlou

Am 18.07.2017 um 08:10 schrieb Lowlands Languages & Cultures:
> to put it into wider-than-Germanic perspective, the word is definitely 
> Indo-European: cf Russian  путь, Old Church Slavoinc пѫть, Sanskrit 
> पथः, and English path, Anglo-Saxon pæþ, Dutch pad, and German Pfad, 
> all with basically the same meaning path, way, course, route. 
> Indo-European would have been *panthis. And the common link with Latin 
> pons, acc. pontem, etc would indicate maybe an even more basic meaning 
> of the rood "how to get from here to there"
>
> And, matching well with what Marcel said above about (High) German 
> words starting in *p, IE roots in *p- do not normally give German 
> words in in *p (ratehr, like Pfad, they give words in *pf-), 
> indicating that, although common Indo-European, and with Germanic 
> cognates, the German*p words got into German not by the normal path 
> (excuse the pun) but through borrowing (in this case no doubt from 
> Latin, though it could conceivably come form Low German... though the 
> nasal would tend to indicate Latin not Low German. If the loan were 
> very very early, then Slavic might also conceivably be a source, but 
> given the sense of the word, this seems unlikely)
>
>
> Dr Michael W Morgan
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