signifficado de tlalcosahua vs tlal pu ja hua

[vazquezdiaz at aol.com]

 Muchas gracias por compartir la informacion relacionada con TLAL CO  SAHUA

Hay otro lugar que se llama  TLAL PU JA HUA   de Tlalpoxahua  tlalli = tierra + poxahua = fofo, por lo tanto Tlalpoxahua significa "tierra fofa."

Con lo de Tlalcosahua (municipio de Huejucar, Jalisco) aun no lo puedo digerir bien.  

Socorrro!


 

 

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Date: Wed,  2 Jun 2010 16:07:50 -0400
From: Michael McCafferty <mmccaffe at indiana.edu>
Subject: Re: [Nahuat-l] Nahuatl Digest, Vol 179, Issue 1
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Tlaxtlahui, Tomas.

Here are some additional fine-tuning, I hope. :)

Quoting Tomas Amaya <t_amaya at megared.net.mx>:

> Tocnihuane'
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> Once again a contribution from nahuat of Cuetzalan.
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> 1.       Cozahua' is a verbal particle related to "getting yellow"


In "classical" Nahuatl a transitive verb something like this exists:
tlacoze:hua 'he/she makes something yellow'...basically to "ehua" 
something in a yellow way "coz-". But from your examples below I 
understand neither the morphology or the grammaticality of "cozahua". 
Could you go into those?

My general thinking at the moment is that it's certainly interesting 
what you say below, but I think we need more data to establish the 
meaning of this place name.

At the same time, there are definitely other people on this list who 
could add light to this discussion, I would think.

In the meantime, I've added a couple of extra comments below,

All the best,

Michael

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> 2.       Cozahuac means "yellowish"

What are the constitutent morphemes?

coz- 'yellow'

???? -------


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> 3.       Firs meaning: talcozahua' (NC=tlalcozahua') => earth that is
> getting yellow

There is in "classical," cozahui:ya  'to get yellow'

tla:lli in cozahui:ya  'earth that is getting yellow'

I would imagine *tla:lcozahui:ya would mean something like becoming the 
yellow associated with soil.

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> 4.       Second meaning: talcozahuac (NC=  tlalcozahuac) => earth that is
> yellowish
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Following your examples below, "tlalcozahuac" would actually mean

'it got yellow in a soil way'


> 5.       Examples that may aid to understand it: Huitzil-opochtli =
> hummingbird that is left-handed;


Cuauh-temoc = Eagle that has descendet;

This actually means 'he descended like an eagle'...."he 
eagle-descended", ...neither like a falcon, nor a swallow, whatever, 
but like an eagle. It's very wonderful name as given names go, don't 
you think?




> tezcatli-poca = mirror that smokes.






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> Tomas Amaya
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