Ponca-Pawnee Name Inquiry

[Rankin, Robert L]

I can't add much to what's already been said, except that I think the letter X really has to be read as [ks].  Siouan *ks clusters all reduce to [s] or [ss] in Dhegiha languages.  And it's highly unlikely that Julius Meyer would have known to use X for a fricative sound.  If he knew Yiddish, Polish or Czech, he might have used CH, but not X.
 
Bob

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Subject: Re: Ponca-Pawnee Name Inquiry


Fairly sure this name is in the Pawnee language. 

I doubt, very seriously, that it's Ponca.

Mark J Awakuni-Swetland wrote: 


	Good Morning All, 
	I received this inquiry from John Carter at the Nebraska State Historical Society. Any speculations on this name? 
	Many thanks, 
	Uthixide 
	
	Mark Awakuni-Swetland, Ph.D.
	http://omahalanguage.unl.edu <http://omahalanguage.unl.edu/> 
	
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"John Carter" <jcarter at nebraskahistory.org> <mailto:jcarter at nebraskahistory.org>  

08/22/2007 04:16 PM 

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	Mark 
	I am working on some stuff on Julius Meyer, the German Jew in Omaha who claimed to speak six languages and opened the Indian goods store on Farnam Street. 

	He claimed to have been given and Indian name, which he spelled Box ka re sha hash ta ka, which he translated as "Curly haired white man with one tongue."  I have two accounts, one that he got it from the Pawnee and one that he got if from the Ponca.  I asked James Riding In if that name made sense to him:  he thought it more likely that it was "Curly haired white dude who that a buffalo robe was worth a carton of Marlboros."  It does look like one of those Pawnee jawbreakers but I thought I would just shoot it across your bow for an opinion.   

	Thoughts? 

	Thanks, John