A little new light on a familiar word ?? Maybe not.

[Clive Bloomfield]

On 14/01/2008, at 12:38 PM, Clive Bloomfield wrote:

>
> On 13/01/2008, at 2:40 PM, Clive Bloomfield wrote:
>
>>
>> Emil AFH Text :
>>
>> Thiwahe kin lel April 7th, 1506, ehanl akhe thokata akichita  
>> sh'akin kta wan thonpi. He Don Juan de Jassu na Doña Maria de  
>> Azpilcueta chincapi ca wichicisakpe hakakta thaowachekiyepi el  
>> miniakashtanpi na Francis eya chasthonpi.
>>
>> Wildenhues :
>>
>> "Here on April 7th, 1506, another great knight of the future was  
>> born. He was the sixth and last child of Don Juan de Jassu and  
>> Doña Maria de Azpilcueta, and at his
>> baptism in the parish church received the name of Francis."
>>
>> A literal version :
>>
>> "Into this family, on April 7th, 1506, was born one who was to  
>> prove again & again, in future years, a mighty soldier. This  
>> (babe), the son of Don Juan de Jassu and
>> Donna Maria de Azpilcueta, as their sixth-born youngest offspring,  
>> was baptized in their (family) chapel, and christened "Francisco/ 
>> Francis." (lit. "Francis saying
>> they-named-him."
>>
>> [NOTES : Seems to be nothing especially noteworthy here.]
>
> I take this back! Now, as we all know, the word akhe' means "again;  
> a second time" [B-Md., s.v.] "again; repeated; a second  
> time" [Riggs, DakEngD, s.v.].
> In any case, one might perhaps have expected akhe'shnashna (or s'a  
> maybe) to correspond my translation "again & again" there.
> Clearly, in this context, Xavier has only just entered this Vale of  
> Tears, so how COULD akhe' there mean "again/a second time"?
> Doesn't akhe' (especially followed immediately by thoka'ta, & in a  
> prospective KTA clause) mean there, something more like : "in time  
> yet to come/in subsequent years"?
>
> Accordingly, I would retranslate  thus :
>
> "Into this family, on Apr.7, 1506, was born one who was destined/ 
> bound to become, in time/years to come, to be a mighty soldier."
>
> Correct?
>
>

> The penny has just dropped! akhe' there goes with waN 'one' - the  
> point being that this babe was the latest 'edition' in a long line  
> of martial heroes (but with a certain difference, as we find out  
> later.)
The words proximity to thoka'ta & the 'yet to be/come' sense of  
eha'ke' put me off the scent, I guess.

Now, I translate :

"Into this family....was born YET ANOTHER who was destined to become,  
in future time, a mighty soldier ('captain' sounds nice)"

Regards,
Clive Bloomfield
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