Quapaw Language Question

[Scott Collins]

This was a phrase that was remembered by my Great Aunt's daughter from my Great Grandmother. Supposedly, she and her siblings spoken fluent Cherokee, however I can not seem to find any word in Cherokee that matches this phrase. I was told that there is a phrase in Tutelo-Saponi, "oka hoc ne de wa ha." I was told this phrase meant something similar to all my relatives. This phrase was remembered as part of a bedtime prayer, however my relative that remembers our Great Grandmother saying this didn't remember its meaning. Since I have been studying the Tutelo-Saponi language I can't say that I have ever come across this particular phrase. There was talk in the family that our Great Grandmother's mother was part Quapaw and Osage, therefore since I have not found this particular phrase in either Cherokee or Tutelo-Saponi I am trying to figure out what language it may have been. Some one had suggested that it may perhaps be Algonquin for enemy. I am
 guessing like the word Nottoway. I just wish someone would have bothered to tape my Great Grandmother before she passed on so that we would have a better idea of the language they were speaking.   


 
 
 
 
 
 
 

--- On Mon, 10/4/10, Rankin, Robert L <rankin at ku.edu> wrote:


From: Rankin, Robert L <rankin at ku.edu>
Subject: RE: Quapaw Language Question
To: siouan at lists.Colorado.EDU
Date: Monday, October 4, 2010, 5:15 PM


I'm afraid this doesn't ring any Quapaw bells with me.  Is it supposed to have some particular meaning?  

Bob

-----Original Message-----
From: owner-siouan at lists.Colorado.EDU on behalf of Scott Collins
Sent: Wed 9/15/2010 10:30 AM
To: siouan at lists.Colorado.EDU
Subject: RE: Quapaw Language Question

These words, ne de wa ha, sound like, naw daw waw hay. 


--- On Tue, 9/14/10, Rankin, Robert L <rankin at ku.edu> wrote:


From: Rankin, Robert L <rankin at ku.edu>
Subject: RE: Quapaw Language Question
To: siouan at lists.Colorado.EDU
Date: Tuesday, September 14, 2010, 3:12 PM


Hey Scott,

Can you give English words that roughly rhyme with these syllables?  That way I won't have to guess at the vowel sounds.

Thanks,

Bob


-----Original Message-----
From: owner-siouan at lists.Colorado.EDU on behalf of Scott Collins
Sent: Tue 9/14/2010 1:49 AM
To: siouan at lists.Colorado.EDU
Subject: Quapaw Language Question

I was wondering if someone may know if "ne de wa ha" or "na da wa hey" has any similarity in the Quapaw language. I am uncertain if I'm spelling this correctly.




      




      




      
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