Conjugation Of A Sentence in Tutelo-Saponi

[Scott Collins]

Here is the entry from William Meuse's dictionary on the two words I have used for the origin word.
 
"*Aqekon, to be so.
(Dors.: Kaqekonbina.) Uncertain; only recorded in neg. desiderative mode. Cf.
Qekego, manifest. Ima kaqekonbina, he doesn’t want to be so.
Alt. sp.: Axekon, Xexon [O, R, ST]." ---Meuse, Yesanechi, pg. 6.
 
Since "of" and "from" are origin words I have been using "qekego". 
 
sweet = chiko:yo
grass = oto:
 
So it should be oto: chiko:yo for sweetgrass?
 
 

Scott P. Collins
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--- On Sat, 5/25/13, David Kaufman <dvkanth2010 at GMAIL.COM> wrote:


From: David Kaufman <dvkanth2010 at GMAIL.COM>
Subject: Re: Conjugation Of A Sentence in Tutelo-Saponi
To: SIOUAN at listserv.unl.edu
Date: Saturday, May 25, 2013, 11:50 AM


Scott,

I don't have my Tutelo material in front of me, but my gut reaction is that your sentence would not be natural to a Siouan-speaker; it appears to be a literal translation of the English.  Rather, I think the more natural Siouan way, which hopefully some other Siouanists here could chime in on, would be more like chiko:yo oto: pi mi-yato-ste:kE lit. 'sweetgrass-scent I-love'.  Not having the Tutelo dictionary with me, I'm not sure about qekego 'of' (I'm not aware of Siouan having a postposition for 'of') nor am I sure about the definite article prefix i-.  (In Biloxi and some other Siouan languages like Lakota and Dhegiha the definite article is after the noun, either suffixed as in Biloxi -yaN or separate as in Lakota kin.)

Is chiko:yo 'sweet'?  (I'm assuming it probably is since it's Biloxi ckuye.)  If oto is 'grass' then it seems to me it would be oto: chiko:yo 'sweetgrass', since sweet is the adjective modifying 'grass.'  That would then give: oto: chiko:yo pi mi-yato-ste:kE lit. 'grass-sweet scent I love.'

I hope this makes sense, and maybe other Siouanists can either verify or correct my analyses....

Dave


On Fri, May 24, 2013 at 10:52 PM, Scott Collins <saponi360 at yahoo.com> wrote:






Verb at end of sentence 
Adjectives follow nouns 
Adverbs and Direct Objects before the Verb 
  
I love the smell of sweetgrass. 
  
I = mi (subject/noun) 
Love = yato-ste:kE (verb) 
The = i- (definite article) 
Smell = pi (you can add an infatic such as –se after the word) (adjective) 
Of = qekego (preposition) 
Sweetgrass = chiko:yo oto: (object/noun) 


My final conjugation: 
I- pi qekego  chiko:yo oto:  mi yato-ste:kE. ( I love the smell of sweetgrass.)   
 
Is this all correct?
 
 


Scott P. Collins
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