Conjugation Of A Sentence in Tutelo-Saponi

[David Kaufman]

Oliverio (p. 269) has pi:lahuk, as one word.

Dave

On Mon, May 27, 2013 at 10:02 PM, Scott Collins <saponi360 at yahoo.com> wrote:

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> Is thank you "huk pila" or "pila huk" in Tutelo-Saponi?
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> --- On *Mon, 5/27/13, Rory Larson <rlarson1 at UNL.EDU>* wrote:
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> From: Rory Larson <rlarson1 at UNL.EDU>
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> Subject: Re: Conjugation Of A Sentence in Tutelo-Saponi
> To: SIOUAN at listserv.unl.edu
> Date: Monday, May 27, 2013, 3:30 PM
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>   Ø  As for the several "pi" words, they may not all be the same.  For
> example, 'good' is aspirated in the other Siouan languages, so it is almost
> certainly aspirated in Tutelo also.  That means it should be written
> phonemically /phi:/, whereas some of the other "pi" words may have the
> unaspirated /p/ that varies with [b] in some of the less fluent speakers
> from a century ago.  For example, the 'desiderative mode' marker is almost
> certainly unaspirated and pronounced [pi] or [bi], depending on the
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> Question here.  How does the unaspirated vs. aspirated distinction in
> Southeastern square with the unaspirated vs. pre-aspirated vs.
> post-aspirated trichotomy that I thought was established for MVS?  I had
> understood from long ago that pre-aspiration (e.g. ʰt-) had shifted
> forward to merge with post-aspiration (e.g. tʰ-) in Dakotan, had stayed
> the same in Osage, and had changed to tense (e.g. tt) in Omaha, Ponka and
> Kaw.  Was there not this three-way distinction in Proto-Siouan and
> Southeastern?
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David Kaufman, Ph.C.
University of Kansas
Linguistic Anthropology
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