Have and BE verbs

[Adam Schembri, Deaf Studies]

James,
I have checked in the Brien (Ed.) (1992) 'Dictionary of BSL/English'
for the sign you mention using a repeated movement and a hand
configuration more like an E handshape (the citation form of HAVE is
usually a 5 closing to an S in a single movement). According to the
deaf native signer with whom I share my office, this variant is used
for emphasis, but does not appear to differ in meaning (i.e., it can
be both possessive and existential). Perhaps the distinction
described in Brien (1992) is a dialectal one. There are a number of
other deaf native signers here at CDS from different parts of the UK,
so I'll ask around.
Adam

On Mon, 4 Feb 2002 19:50:53 -0700 James MacFarlane
<jmacfarl at UNM.EDU> wrote:

> Adam,
>
> Is there also a sign in BSL which is glossed as HAVE (its a 5 hs to S
> hs,
> upturned palm)?  In the Brien dictionary it says that "if an E
> handshape is
> used and the movement is sharp and repeated, while the top teeth close
> repeatedly against the lower lip, the sign produced is  THERE-IS".
> Or is
> this the same sign you referenced below?  If its not, could you point
> me to
> a description of the two signs?
>
> Thanks in advance,
>
>
> --
> James MacFarlane
> University of New Mexico
> Department of Linguistics
>
>
>
>
> > From: "Adam Schembri, Deaf Studies" <Adam.Schembri at bristol.ac.uk>
> > Date: Mon, 4 Feb 2002 13:05:47 +0000
> > To: "For the discussion of linguistics and signed languages."
> > <SLLING-L at ADMIN.HUMBERC.ON.CA>
>
> > BSL and Auslan both use HAVE in the same way as LSQ. To my
> knowledge,
> > there are two variants of the BSL sign TO-EXIST (one with a 5
> > handshape and one with an A handshape), but Chris is right to
> suggest
> > that they are not used as a copula.
> >
> > Adam
> >
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> >
> > On Mon, 4 Feb 2002 09:44:25 +0100 Onno Crasborn
> > <o.crasborn at LET.KUN.NL> wrote:
> >
>

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Adam Schembri
Centre for Deaf Studies
University of Bristol
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Bristol BS8 1TN
United Kingdom
Telephone: +44 (0)117 954 6909
Textphone: +44 (0)117 954 6920
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