Sorting by SW Location Symbols

Charles Butler chazzer3332000 at YAHOO.COM
Thu Oct 24 21:26:57 UTC 2002

In response to Dr. Rocha,
This is a really intriguing question, Valerie, and the programming may be difficult, but in the long run, quite useful.
If we have, such as in dance writing, the "direction the dancer is facing" then perhaps we can have "point of view" as "expressive" (from the back, as if one is signing), "receptive" (from the front, as if one is recording another person), or "objective" (from above, so in a sense being neither the signer nor the other person).
All signs could be written from all three points of view (recognizing that it might take a while to get the computer programming to do it), but with a logical sequence of placement, a translation from expressive, to receptive, to objective could be done, and that way, it would not matter how the sign was recorded originally (for example, a left-handed signer writing down a sign "expressively" could be translated to "right-hand dominant" and "receptive" by a translation program, or a conversation between two people could be recorded "objectively" using your Dance Writing symbols to show person facing and location of the signers.
All in all, a masterful stroke, Valerie.

 Valerie Sutton <Sutton at SIGNWRITING.ORG> wrote:SignWriting List
October 24, 2002

From: "Antonio Carlos da Rocha Costa"
Subject: Re: Sorting by SW Location Symbols
Date: Thu, 24 Oct 2002

Dear Valerie,

I think this location symbol is real, great contribution to the problem of
searching signs. It remembers me those round symbols you have in dance
writing, for marking the direction the dancer is facing at.

I'd like to ask you about another thing that SignWriting makes implicit,
namely, the problem of the place wherethe writer is placing himself. I can't
give you examples right now, but obviously there are signs that can equally
well be wrtten with the writer placing himself behind the signer or placing
himself above the signer.

When searching SignBank, it maybe necessary to specify if you want to
search for signs written from the back view, or from the top view, or form
either. In a bank with plenty of signs, there should be different results
for each query. So, maybe a symbol for that would be useful too.

Do you agree?

All the best,

Ant �? io Carlos

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