[sw-l] Stuarts Question about Curved Arrows...

Stephen Slevinski slevinski at SIGNWRITING.ORG
Tue Dec 7 21:28:59 UTC 2004

Hi Charles,

I fixed Carmen-Miranda-3.  Not sure what went wrong.

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  From: owner-sw-l at majordomo.valenciacc.edu
[mailto:owner-sw-l at majordomo.valenciacc.edu]On Behalf Of Charles Butler
  Sent: Tuesday, December 07, 2004 3:52 PM
  To: sw-l at majordomo.valenciacc.edu
  Subject: Re: [sw-l] Stuarts Question about Curved Arrows...

  In my horizontal writing, it is actually why I showed the shoulder and hip
lines separately from the arms, to get a feel for lanes without vertical
writing.  That way the hands and presumably the rest of the body is shifted
over with the head staying to one side.  I really need to refine that sign
more as it's more of the hip and shoulder sag than a head sag or shift.
Signing it to myself the head stays more or less vertical, it's the
shoulders that that tilt and sway.  I'll be glad when the full arms are in
the SignPuddle.  I don't seem to be able to rotate the shoulders either.

  It's certainly a challenge to write.

  This is stray.

  I can't seem to get rid of this extra hip sway as it is not in the "sign
window in sign puddle.  Can Steve help?  This is Carmen Miranda 3 in the
Brazilian Sign Language dictionary.  I bring it up in edit, but can't see
that extra hip in the construction window to delete it.



  Valerie Sutton <sutton at signwriting.org> wrote:
    SignWriting List
    December 7, 2004

    Charles Butler wrote:
    > The last one, in Valerie's list, is what i was trying to write using
    > my ancient version of SW 4.0.  Only in vertical writing can you show
    > the "neutral position" flowing into the "over the shoulder" position
    > without confusion.  I like that.

    Thank you, Charles, and yes...vertical writing is wonderful! I love

    In regards to your question about the Carmen Miranda signs...your
    writing confuses me a little. The only way I could see if you were
    doing body-weight-shifts in real SignLanes, is if you placed the
    different signs in vertical columns. Then I can see the head moving
    over into SignLane Left or Right...so the vertical columns give us
    quick and accurate reading of weight shifts that move the head off
    center... Val ;-)

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