Surface symbols

CWren at DOE.K12.GA.US CWren at DOE.K12.GA.US
Thu Dec 15 18:26:53 UTC 2005

We use several different variations here...  the top 'open C' hand moving 
down twice onto the lower flat hand, the single pull pack with both hands 
moving together: both  are used, but more common is sort of a double 
shake...  I had to sign it several times to figure out that it actually 
moves down and =forward= a little.  Would I use the diagonal plane symbols 
for that, or not because it could be understood without them? Val. I like 
your variation.  I can see both handshapes clearly.  If the grasp symbol 
is used, you wouldn't need the surface symbol, right?  The 'old' spellings 
had the grasp symbol, but they had the two handshapes overlapping... 
that's why I thought the surface symbol might be better in that instance.

Cherie Wren
GSD Staff Interpreter
232 Perry Farm Rd
Cave Spring, GA 30124
706-766-0766 Cell

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Re: [sw-l] Surface symbols

SignWriting List
December 15, 2005

Philippe in Iowa, USA, wrote:
I noticed the arrow seems not right since I don?t move my hand down for 
English.  I move my hand toward to myself.  The first English spelling 
with correct arrow symbol is correct.  Make sense?

Hi Philip!
Great to get your feedback. Yes. You agree with our Deaf DAC 
members...they wrote the first two signs in the attached diagram...the 
second sign is another shows the right hand moving down 
twice onto the left hand...I have seen that variation in some parts of the 
US...but you are right that the first one seems to be the most commonly 
used...moving back towards the chest

Cherie comes from Georgia...maybe in Georgia they move down with both 
hands? smile...There are different ways that signs are signed...but 
usually one writing starts to become the standard way to write the 
sign...For right now, we are writing different variations and placing them 
in the SignPuddle...that way we can discuss the different variations 
easily on the SignWriting List...

Have you ever seen the second variation?

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