Writing the 4 Group in handwriting

Charles Butler chazzer3332000 at YAHOO.COM
Fri Dec 1 19:12:50 UTC 2006

I like the < for the thumb folded into the hand for a 4 handshape.  It is quick and easy, and elminates shading for the 4, without confusion with the bent thumb 5 hand, which attaches from the lower point.  This is fascinating.
  Charles Butler

Stuart Thiessen <sw at passitonservices.org> wrote:
  I don't know if there is an official way as of yet. I think at this 
point we are still at the "print" stage where we try to make the 
handwritten symbol match the printed symbol. We haven't graduated to 
the "cursive" stage where the symbol may be significantly abbreviated 
but understandable. I know that Valerie wants to be sure that we all 
understand the print version before we begin to focus on the "cursive" 
type of symbol. My understanding is that her "cursive" versions rely 
alot on our intuition of the standard print system. If we have a solid 
understanding of the standard print system, then we will understand the 
"cursive" better. I don't know if "cursive" is the right word for it, 
since I have only seen samples of the writing without any understanding 
of the rules behind it.

I find the 4 group frustrating to write. I did experiment with the idea 
of eliminating the thumb (to let it disappear into the palm), but it 
only works with 3 of the handshapes. If I eliminate the thumb in the 
other 5 handshapes in the 4 group, then there is nothing to distinguish 
it from similar handshapes in the 5 group where the thumb is on the 
side of the hand. So that is only a "partial" solution. Philip and I 
did discuss it yesterday and thought about this idea. What do you guys 
think ... for handwriting?



On Dec 1, 2006, at 9:07, Adam Frost wrote:

> I really don't know what is the "official" way of handwritting SW, but
> I use my own sorta "shorthand". I will have to some how show some of
> my writing which is hard to do because I don't have a scanner.
> Adam
> On 12/1/06, Kimberley Shaw wrote:
>> Hi Stuart: I prefer to use a brush pen for Signwriting - that way I
>> can do the palm of this handshape in 3 strokes, and then quickly add
>> the fingers! The thumb-in handshapes are indeed tricky to write well.
>> Best, Kim
>> On 11/30/06, Stuart Thiessen wrote:
>> > I am curious how people have been handwriting the 4 group. I tend to
>> > have difficulty shading in a "4" handshape without either coloring 
>> in
>> > the thumb or making so small that it is hard to really see. What
>> > writing techniques have you been using to keep it looking right? 
>> Or do
>> > you have a handwriting shortcut that you use to indicate the thumb
>> > without using the white space?
>> >
>> > Stuart
>> >
>> >
>> >

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